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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Why do you run CloD on Microsoft XP?
I don't have the funds needed 4 20.00%
I don't want to spend the money 1 5.00%
I don't know how to upgrade 0 0%
I prefer XP over W7/Vista 4 20.00%
My hardware won't run W7 3 15.00%
Other reasons 8 40.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-05-2011, 02:50 PM
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Welllllll...

IF you have more of 4GB of RAM, W7 x64 will make CloD runs better, because W7 x64 will use all your RAM to run EVERYTHING - not just CloD - and any game title likes free available physical memory.

IF you have multicore CPU, W7 is MUCH better than XP using all cores.

W7 is better than XP. Simple.
yes, I'm aware of that.

I just checked task manager. The overhead on my xp machine with avg free running in the background is only 400 MB. With the 3gb switch enabled, I can run il-2 max settings online, texture compression off, supplemental programs like freetrack, hyperlobby, glovepie in the background. After that, there is still about 1GB left out of the 3gb total of unused memory. No crashes. I posted Luthier about the 3GB switch and his patch crashes. Hopefully he is listening because it does make a difference if the program you are running is ram intensive. The switch changes the addressing. Moves some from the operating system to the program. Maybe CLoD is pushing the standard xp addressing allocation to the limit? I wouldn't be suprised if it was.

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Old 10-05-2011, 02:58 PM
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I have better performance with XP than with W7
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:26 PM
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Well, I understand the poll...however IMHO it is lacking in definition.
I believe the poll should have reflected something like this...

XP-32
XP-64
W7-32
W7-64 Home
W7-64 Pro
W7-64 Ult
Other?

Then post your reasons why you run whatever....
To post that XP runs better than W7 and not state
which version of W7 is meaningless to everyone...
Their is a huge difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit
versions in performance...and there is a huge, IMHO,
difference in W7 64 Home to W7 64 Pro & Ult....

Further to compare XP 32 to W7 32 is essentially apples to apples,
performance wise...(mem limitations).

Seems to me we need a "bi-poller" to get the true view...
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:40 PM
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On my gaming rig I went from XP Pro 32bit SP3, directly to a fresh install of Win 7 Pro 64bit over a year ago. I can run as much RAM as I can afford.

I have never looked back.

I have to admit that XP was a very robust OS. But I completely skipped the Vista experience.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:03 PM
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XP = Dx9 only
Win 7 = Dx10 and 11

And

XP = 4gb RAM max.
Win 7 64bit = 16gb RAM max (or possibly higher)

That's good enough a warrant upgrading for me.
Oh BTW before anyone says it. That dx10 hack for xp does not really work.
I'm sure you know this but, just in case anyone misunderstood - Win7 runs DX9 also.

I did have Vista 64 prior to Win 7 64. The instablity in Vista occured early in it's release. I didn't have a lot of problems with it during the 14 months or so I used it.

Win 7 64 has been stable as a rock. Much better looking, much more secure and convienant O/S than XP in my experience at home and at work.

Many large organizations are migrating as fast as they can to Win 7 due to security.

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Old 10-05-2011, 04:22 PM
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Suprised no one has mentioned Window 8 in this thread yet. I read business can't wait to spend more money for that! Windows 7, obsolete in just few months guys. So I think I'll just skip it.

Really, don't you think the constant pc upgrade battle gets old after a while? I can play atari centipede or asteroids and still have fun.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:38 PM
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Well, I understand the poll...however IMHO it is lacking in definition.
I believe the poll should have reflected something like this...

XP-32
XP-64
W7-32
W7-64 Home
W7-64 Pro
W7-64 Ult
Other?

Then post your reasons why you run whatever....
To post that XP runs better than W7 and not state
which version of W7 is meaningless to everyone...
Their is a huge difference between the 32 bit and 64 bit
versions in performance...and there is a huge, IMHO,
difference in W7 64 Home to W7 64 Pro & Ult....

Further to compare XP 32 to W7 32 is essentially apples to apples,
performance wise...(mem limitations).

Seems to me we need a "bi-poller" to get the true view...
I also "forgot" Vista32/64, srv03 32/64, srv08/R2 and everything inbetween.
Well u make the poll.

Fact is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition was released 2005 and W7 was released in 2009.
Crippled Windows 7 home edt with no bells and whistles beats XP64 pro extra plus super deluxe. It's in the core a better OS. Simple as that.

So I wanted to know why people use XP any version before W7 any version.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:40 PM
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because they do, simple as that.

calling for XP support to be dropped is retarded and selfish.

1946 was playable on win98 machines.
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:42 PM
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I have no intention to install Windows7 to my current PC. I'll get a new 64bit Win7 PC sometime in the future, but I'm not in hurry because all other SW I use works well in XP.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:15 PM
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I also "forgot" Vista32/64, srv03 32/64, srv08/R2 and everything inbetween.
Well u make the poll.

Fact is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition was released 2005 and W7 was released in 2009.
Crippled Windows 7 home edt with no bells and whistles beats XP64 pro extra plus super deluxe. It's in the core a better OS. Simple as that.

So I wanted to know why people use XP any version before W7 any version.
Wasn't trying to sound or be critical...and your explanation makes good sense.

I'll go out on a limb and say this.....to everybody.
If you're not running an SSD with W7 64 Pro or Ult on your system?
And you are capable? Both financially and hardware wise to do it?
You have no idea of what you are missing out on....The cheapest speed
you will ever purchase. It doesn't matter if you have AMD or Intel system...Desktop or Laptop.

A lot of folks here are far smarter than me and I acknowledge that...
Some of y'all are plumb brilliant...

Thanks...
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