CoD on Mac Pro, Bootcamp, Win XP SP3 vs Win 7 x64

[Codex]

Originally Posted by Georgio41

I'm guessing that while you were still in nappies I was building PC's when it was still very much a dark science, so don't give it all the 'smarter than thou' crap.
Mac users use the platform generally because they'd more rather be using their equipment than delving into the insides trying to suss out wtf the burning smell is coming from....

NOW the case is closed.

Mate at high school I was using a Wang the size of a 700L fridge and Punch Cards ... ROFL

http://grossenouille.blogspot.com/20...volved-in.html

[jzbdski]

Ok enough of this crap.

Different people choose different tools for different jobs, we all have a preference and that's fine.

The question I'd raised was in relation to bootcamp -which is natively running windows on the hardware with no translation / interpretation / virtualization or emulation layer.

It seems like the answer may well be to try running Win 7 64-bit and DX10 or 11 to see if that improves over the woeful performance of XP-Pro 32-Bit and DX9 -which, incidentally, seems to run CoD equally poorly on 'native windows PC' hardware.

So that's it really then, thanks for all the helpful suggestions and for those of you who've given me a laugh with your, erm, 'interesting' views...

I'll post how whether the change in OS helps out when I've upgraded.

If I may ,humourously, poke a wee bit of fun at our windows colleagues, I have found it slightly bizarre that there seem to be rather more versions of Windows 7 than I was expecting -each with different parts of the OS enabled /disabled for increasingly steep prices. At least with OSX you get the one version (server excluded) and it costs a fraction of the price.

At the risk of starting another flame war, as all I'm likely to be doing is running a couple of applications under win7 is there any merit in buying anything other than the 'Home Premium' (is there a 'Home Basic' or 'Home Starter' ?), obviously x64 ?

Cheers

[FlushMeister]

BAM!!!!!

My 6000 dollar 2011 macbook pro didn't fit in frame...

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by jzbdski

Ok enough of this crap.

Different people choose different tools for different jobs, we all have a preference and that's fine.

The question I'd raised was in relation to bootcamp -which is natively running windows on the hardware with no translation / interpretation / virtualization or emulation layer.

It seems like the answer may well be to try running Win 7 64-bit and DX10 or 11 to see if that improves over the woeful performance of XP-Pro 32-Bit and DX9 -which, incidentally, seems to run CoD equally poorly on 'native windows PC' hardware.

So that's it really then, thanks for all the helpful suggestions and for those of you who've given me a laugh with your, erm, 'interesting' views...

I'll post how whether the change in OS helps out when I've upgraded.

If I may ,humourously, poke a wee bit of fun at our windows colleagues, I have found it slightly bizarre that there seem to be rather more versions of Windows 7 than I was expecting -each with different parts of the OS enabled /disabled for increasingly steep prices. At least with OSX you get the one version (server excluded) and it costs a fraction of the price.

At the risk of starting another flame war, as all I'm likely to be doing is running a couple of applications under win7 is there any merit in buying anything other than the 'Home Premium' (is there a 'Home Basic' or 'Home Starter' ?), obviously x64 ?

Cheers

From what i've gleaned, the main difference between cheap/pricey is xp compatibility mode, which I would find useful myself. Thete's a bundle of other stuff, a quick google should take you to the microsoft compatison section.

Also, if you're looking for intelligent informed input on getting the game going on a mac you could try mission4today/airwarfare sites.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by jzbdski

If I may ,humourously, poke a wee bit of fun at our windows colleagues, I have found it slightly bizarre that there seem to be rather more versions of Windows 7 than I was expecting -each with different parts of the OS enabled /disabled for increasingly steep prices. At least with OSX you get the one version (server excluded) and it costs a fraction of the price.

At the risk of starting another flame war, as all I'm likely to be doing is running a couple of applications under win7 is there any merit in buying anything other than the 'Home Premium' (is there a 'Home Basic' or 'Home Starter' ?), obviously x64 ?

Cheers

Actually depending on where you buy or who has sales the prices are comparable for both OS's. And one sight did have 3 or 4 different versions of your beloved OS 10 which by the way the top one was the same price as the top win 7. But win 7 can play CLoD out of the box without jumping through hoops.

[jzbdski]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

From what i've gleaned, the main difference between cheap/pricey is xp compatibility mode, which I would find useful myself. Thete's a bundle of other stuff, a quick google should take you to the microsoft compatison section.

Thanks for that, I have looked at the bewilderingly humourous Microsoft site and couldn't find any justification anywhere of why they want £125 for a knobbled version of the most basic version, yes XP compatibility would be nice but this should be available for any version of Win 7 not only the more expensive ones -can't help feeling that it's all a bit of a rip-off

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Actually depending on where you buy or who has sales the prices are comparable for both OS's. And one sight did have 3 or 4 different versions of your beloved OS 10 which by the way the top one was the same price as the top win 7. But win 7 can play CLoD out of the box without jumping through hoops.

in an attempt to get back to the facts: OSX 10.6 costs £26, Win 7: Home Premium: £125; Pro: £220; Ultimate: £230. Not quite the same then. (prices come from Apple online store and Microsoft's online store).

Also, I've said it before, Bootcamp is exactly the same as using 'native Windows PC hardware' there is no more 'jumping through hoops' than anyone else running a similarly old OS (XP pro) would encounter.

Clearly we're never all going to agree, using both OS's extensively over a number of years, I know what my preferences are for certain circumstances and having the ability to switch OS for playing games, for example, is one of the great things about the Mac platform.

I'm not for one minute saying that you couldn't build a faster, better specced machine more cheaply (indeed I've done this myself in the past) but sometimes things like resiliance, compatibility and flexibility are more important and worth the perceived extra expense.

(and despite what you might have heard, OSX is a really nice, stable and speedy OS -probably not all that unlike Win 7 is attempting to be ! )

Can we just agree to disagree and get on with trying to enjoy the game ?

Cheers

(dives for cover)

[FlushMeister]

I honestly think yu should get Win7, once installed in your mac you'll have a great gaming PC, it's worth the money, do you think you could get an OEM version of windows? They're much cheaper right?

Originally Posted by jzbdski

Thanks for that, I have looked at the bewilderingly humourous Microsoft site and couldn't find any justification anywhere of why they want £125 for a knobbled version of the most basic version, yes XP compatibility would be nice but this should be available for any version of Win 7 not only the more expensive ones -can't help feeling that it's all a bit of a rip-off



in an attempt to get back to the facts: OSX 10.6 costs £26, Win 7: Home Premium: £125; Pro: £220; Ultimate: £230. Not quite the same then. (prices come from Apple online store and Microsoft's online store).

Also, I've said it before, Bootcamp is exactly the same as using 'native Windows PC hardware' there is no more 'jumping through hoops' than anyone else running a similarly old OS (XP pro) would encounter.

Clearly we're never all going to agree, using both OS's extensively over a number of years, I know what my preferences are for certain circumstances and having the ability to switch OS for playing games, for example, is one of the great things about the Mac platform.

I'm not for one minute saying that you couldn't build a faster, better specced machine more cheaply (indeed I've done this myself in the past) but sometimes things like resiliance, compatibility and flexibility are more important and worth the perceived extra expense.

(and despite what you might have heard, OSX is a really nice, stable and speedy OS -probably not all that unlike Win 7 is attempting to be ! )

Can we just agree to disagree and get on with trying to enjoy the game ?

Cheers

(dives for cover)

[jzbdski]

Ordered Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM) and 1TB hard drive, £120 all-in.

I'll post how it all works out once they're installed.

Thanks for all your help

[Oldschool61]

Most online retailers like newegg have OS 10 and Win 7 around the same price.

[jzbdski]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Most online retailers like newegg have OS 10 and Win 7 around the same price.

Ah, that's for the OSX box set which bundles in the latest versions of iLife and iWork... and that's still the full and complete version of the OS at the same price as the cut-down version of Win 7.

Anyhoos, doesn't really matter. Paid the money, hope for better frame-rates
(and if it doesn't help I'll be really p****d off !)