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04-10-2011, 06:26 PM
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Today I tried again with my friends in multiplayer (with the "mod" finally we can fly together, but the multiplay "seems" limited to 6 players, have you ever hosted for more humans?): flying in a inflight 109 (former AI) I reached the 5 km before any shake. Maybe I had the first shake after x seconds from the airplane selection (takeoff/2,5km = 2km/5km) I really don't know: anyway we tested some SpitIIa vs 109E4 and, I'm really sorry to say it, but the energy management seems to be AGAIN the one of IL2 version < 4.10. It was our first real test, so probably we are still noobs with the full EM: anyway the 109 seems to lose tons of energy in a candle. I'm still optimist (but please I can't wait AGAIN 10 years to have good FMs): for now the priorities are others I hope.
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04-10-2011, 06:32 PM
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The Spitfire Mk IIa is modelled quite well for a +12 lbs boost version (even thought he boost shows as +8 lbs). Unfortunately the 109 is about 30-60 kph too slow at all altitudes.
That would explain why your 109 lost so much energy, it simply has too little power. Last edited by ICDP; 04-10-2011 at 06:56 PM.
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04-10-2011, 06:51 PM
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04-10-2011, 07:40 PM
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@ICDP probably you're right!
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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04-10-2011, 08:24 PM
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04-10-2011, 09:10 PM
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Spitfire and Hurricane seem to have the same problem. I thought this is caused by "less than 1 g cut outs" but it looks like a more general problem.
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04-11-2011, 01:03 AM
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As I understand it the lever currently labelled Mixture control in the BF109E3 was actually there to alter the timing purely to allow burning off the plugs (removing Oil fouling) and was only done on the ground. Once in flight Fuel injection did its thing. In short the 109E3 didnt have any mixture control.
 I grew up understanding Max power and Speed was MAX BOOST and MAX RPM Last edited by IvanK; 04-11-2011 at 07:24 AM.
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04-11-2011, 08:37 AM
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I did some testing with the E-3 today for speed at 0 and 5 km rated altitudes, and climb between 0 and 6000 meter.
Refer below to my findings, compared graphically to the actual Bf 109E Specification sheets of 1939, found here: http://www.kurfurst.org/Performance_...chreibung.html  Uploaded with ImageShack.us  Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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