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Bloody Foreigners: The untold battle of Britain Video
Hey guys, just saw the complete documentary, it is a very well done piece. Thanks for bringing it up to light, I hope they make more and if they do keep us informed please.
I have not yet put my hands on a "Dark Blue World" I really want to watch it, is it a good film?? Anyway, just wanted to say hello  For those who have not seen this documentary here are the links (12 mins. each, 4 parts). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Bloody Foreigners"Part 1 of 4 The Untold Battle Of Britain,Poland's pilots of 303 Squadron "Bloody Foreigners"Part 2 of 4 The Untold Battle Of Britain,Poland's Pilots of 303 Squadron. "Bloody Foreigners"Part 3 of 4 The Untold Battle Of Britain,Poland's Pilots of 303 Squadron. "Bloody Foreigners"Part 4 of 4 The Untold Battle Of Britain,Poland's Pilots of 303 Squadron. Enjoy! It appears as "video not found" but it works, just click on the link on top on the media player window Last edited by edal86; 08-20-2010 at 07:08 AM.
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08-20-2010, 08:59 AM
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Thanks for the links, this looks like a very interesting documentary. Going to watch it! About 'Dark Blue World': great movie, reminds me that I want to see it again. Very good director and actors, touching story. Have fun! MAC
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08-20-2010, 12:49 PM
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Dark Blue is an awesome film Edal, I'll second Mac on that.
The thing that impressed me most about the documentary on 303 squadron was not only there overiding desire to just shoot down Germans but their complete disregard for our 'british' rules and regulations- josef frantiseks story is just amazing and tragically sad in that he died in the way he did. It does make the scene in the film BoB much more amusing now that I know that's basically what they did on every sortie!!!! Repeat Please..........
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08-20-2010, 10:50 PM
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Did the links work for you guys??
I could not find a copy of "dark blue world" in any American store around my area. Looks like they are only available online for $22 or more, fortunately, I live near the border with Mexico and I just found a Region 4 copy in a Mexican store for just $5 Cant wait to watch it, thanks for the recommendation.
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08-23-2010, 07:01 PM
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While memories of the Battle of Britain remain fresh in the minds of The Few who flew, and the staff who supported them, veterans fear its significance could soon be forgotten by others.
Seventy years ago the RAF was locked in a life and death struggle with the Luftwaffe in the skies over England. The three weeks between mid-August and early September in 1940 were decisive for the Battle of Britain. The bravery of the RAF pilots was captured in Winston Churchill's speech on 20 August when he said "never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few". Those left of The Few, as those pilots became known, are now in their 90s. Some of them fear they will soon not be around to remind people of the events that summer. Tom Neil was a 20-year-old Hurricane pilot during the battle. He was often scrambled four or five times a day, flying 141 times in all. "As soon as the scramble order came, you'd have to get off the ground in three minutes," he said. "You're concentrating like mad, looking for the enemy as you get above the clouds. "The adrenaline is racing… flak is bursting all around you, everything was exciting. "When you get back on the ground, you feel like a piece of chewed string. You think Christ, that was rather nasty." "The Spitfire was a beautiful plane to fly. When you were sitting in it you really were part of the plane," said Spitfire pilot William Walker, now 97. But while the Spitfire came to symbolise the battle, the workhorse Hurricane was also held in great affection. "It was the Hurricanes which won the Battle of Britain," Mr Walker said. "They outnumbered us two to one." The pilots' days ran from dawn to dusk - sometimes from 0330 until almost 2200. A pilot had to be able to fall asleep in an instant, in the brief respite between flights. Tom Neil flew so many times because he was never seriously injured, or burned, a common hazard for Hurricane pilots. His friend James Nicolson once described to him "how he smelled like pieces of roast pork, how he could see pieces coming off his arm" in the cockpit. Nicolson had stayed in his burning craft that day, August 16 1940, to shoot down a Messerschmitt 109. He managed to bail out in time, and became the only fighter pilot during the Battle of Britain to be awarded a Victoria Cross. The British planes had little ammunition - only about 30 seconds' worth - and they were firing 7mm machine gun bullets while the Germans had 20mm cannon. The trick was to get in position - fast - and fire as quickly as possible before getting away. British planes could turn more sharply than the Messerschmitt 109s but otherwise they could not outmanoeuvre them. One ace, "Ginger" Lacey, told the BBC he had had to bail out nine times in 16 weeks. Peter Ayerst, who trained Spitfire pilots, said it was impossible to tell who would survive and who would not. Pilots were kept in the air thanks to the bravery of ground crew, whose job it was to check, patch holes, refuel and re-arm the planes. They too were risking their lives, particularly between August 15 and September 7, when the Luftwaffe targeted RAF airfields. Ronald Tooke, then 19, was an engine mechanic for a busy Hurricane squadron. He remembered the aerodrome being attacked on a sweltering summer day, when he went to sit in the shade by the hangar after testing a plane with a colleague. "You can't sit there," said his friend, "our planes are coming back". But the engine noise he heard was a Messerschmitt. "That was the last I saw of him," said Ronald Tooke. He dived for cover, but his colleague was dead. What is more, if the pilots had not known exactly where to go, they could not have fought at all. Radar operators and the observer corps spotted German planes and relayed the information to the operations room, where it was plotted on a huge map. Peter Ayerst, who trained Spitfire pilots, said it was impossible to tell who would survive and who would not. Pilots were kept in the air thanks to the bravery of ground crew, whose job it was to check, patch holes, refuel and re-arm the planes. They too were risking their lives, particularly between August 15 and September 7, when the Luftwaffe targeted RAF airfields. Ronald Tooke, then 19, was an engine mechanic for a busy Hurricane squadron. He remembered the aerodrome being attacked on a sweltering summer day, when he went to sit in the shade by the hangar after testing a plane with a colleague. "You can't sit there," said his friend, "our planes are coming back". But the engine noise he heard was a Messerschmitt. "That was the last I saw of him," said Ronald Tooke. He dived for cover, but his colleague was dead. What is more, if the pilots had not known exactly where to go, they could not have fought at all. Radar operators and the observer corps spotted German planes and relayed the information to the operations room, where it was plotted on a huge map. Peter Ayerst, who trained Spitfire pilots, said it was impossible to tell who would survive and who would not. Pilots were kept in the air thanks to the bravery of ground crew, whose job it was to check, patch holes, refuel and re-arm the planes. They too were risking their lives, particularly between August 15 and September 7, when the Luftwaffe targeted RAF airfields. Ronald Tooke, then 19, was an engine mechanic for a busy Hurricane squadron. He remembered the aerodrome being attacked on a sweltering summer day, when he went to sit in the shade by the hangar after testing a plane with a colleague. "You can't sit there," said his friend, "our planes are coming back". But the engine noise he heard was a Messerschmitt. "That was the last I saw of him," said Ronald Tooke. He dived for cover, but his colleague was dead. What is more, if the pilots had not known exactly where to go, they could not have fought at all. Radar operators and the observer corps spotted German planes and relayed the information to the operations room, where it was plotted on a huge map. Peter Ayerst, who trained Spitfire pilots, said it was impossible to tell who would survive and who would not. Pilots were kept in the air thanks to the bravery of ground crew, whose job it was to check, patch holes, refuel and re-arm the planes. They too were risking their lives, particularly between August 15 and September 7, when the Luftwaffe targeted RAF airfields. Ronald Tooke, then 19, was an engine mechanic for a busy Hurricane squadron. He remembered the aerodrome being attacked on a sweltering summer day, when he went to sit in the shade by the hangar after testing a plane with a colleague. "You can't sit there," said his friend, "our planes are coming back". But the engine noise he heard was a Messerschmitt. "That was the last I saw of him," said Ronald Tooke. He dived for cover, but his colleague was dead. What is more, if the pilots had not known exactly where to go, they could not have fought at all. Radar operators and the observer corps spotted German planes and relayed the information to the operations room, where it was plotted on a huge map. Hazel Gregory was 18 in 1940 and working as a plotter at the Headquarters of Fighter Command in Uxbridge. The plotters would hear information through their headphones and instantly start placing Bakelite arrows on the map, adding to it at a rate of about one a second. She recalled Winston Churchill visiting on September 15 - later seen as the decisive day in the Battle. "You're too close to it to realise exactly what's happened," the prime minister said. "But you will later and one day you'll tell your grandchildren about it and the part you played in it." Most of the veterans I spoke to said the Battle of Britain was no longer as well known as it used to be. School children study World War II, but they usually learn about the evacuations and the Blitz, which affected many millions. Ronald Tooke recently went into a shop near his Hampshire home, wearing his Battle of Britain badge. The young shop assistant asked him what it was, so he told her. "And which Battle of Britain would that be?" she asked. And it was not a joke http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11004370 spitfire
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this guy deserves any honor bestowed and then some...got this from another site amd is a mix of several posts.
The RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (Lancaster and one of the Flights Spitfires) had a fly over in salute to Fl Lt Nicholson who 70 years ago on Monday this week (16.8.10) won the VC for his incredible act of bravery. (the ONLY Fighter Command VC in the Battle of Britain and entire war) He was flying a Mk1 Hurricane from RAF Boscombe Down (where I work) in a flight of three A/C ...Red flight...and was engaged with a gaggle of Me110's over the Solent when his Hurricane was hit by 4 canon shells from '110. One shell caused an injury to his foot, one shattered the canopy and caused cuts and bleeding to his eye and two went into the gravity tank in front of the cockpit (Only a Brit would design a fighter with a petrol tank sandwiched in between the motor and the pilot !). Obviously, it got a bit hot with tank on fire so he decided to jump. Just as he's about to go over the side, he see's a 110 fly right by in front of him, and in sheer bl**dy mindedness, he climbs back inside the burning cockpit...and promptly shot the 110 down !. Then he jumped, badly burned. All was well until he was just about to land, when a member of the LDV (Home Guard) shot him in the b*m !. He spent more than a year recuperating from his burns, but by September 1941 was back in the air and in 1942 was posted to India. Between August 1943 and August 1944 he was a squadron leader for a unit stationed in Burma (27 Squadron, flying Bristol Beaufighters over Burma. During this time he was awarded the DFC.). He was killed when an RAF Liberator in which he was flying as an observer caught fire and crashed into the Bay of Bengal. His body was not recovered. His medals are in the possession of the Royal Air Force Museum, Hendon. His two wingmen, both with surname King, were also badly shot up by the 109's who had joined in the dogfight, one managed to fly his crippled Hurricane back to land but the other bailed out only find his parachute had been shredded by canon fire and it failed. He did'nt make it back home. At Boscombe Down, we have a memorial to Nicholson ...sorted by our very own Rocketeer !!!...and have some of the armour plate form Nicholsons Hurricane in the Museum. video from the day... http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65...nd-flight-gear
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Battle of Britain veterans take to the skies again
Fourteen Battle of Britain veterans are taking to the skies in a special memorial flight. A chartered airliner is flying over parts of England and the English channel that saw some of the fiercest aerial combats. The British Airways Airbus is being accompanied for part of the way by a Spitfire and Hurricane from the period. “This is going to be real pleasure, a great day” Said William Walker ,Spitfire fighter pilot. The battle for air supremacy between the RAF and the Luftwaffe in 1940 was a decisive chapter in World War II. The daily dogfights in the skies of southern England saved Britain and averted a German invasion. Important battle Bill Bond, of the Battle of Britain Historical Society, who organised the two-hour flight, said that with just a few remaining veterans still alive he wanted to mark the 70th anniversary celebrations with "something a bit special". He told the BBC that with the Hurricane and Spitfire flying alongside the British Airways Airbus, it "would be the first time that any of the veterans had flown in formation since the end of the war". One of the veterans, Wing Commander Bob Foster, said the flight was an important reminder to those who were not born at the time as it "would bring home to (them) what happened way back 70 years ago". "This is what we trying to get over to the younger generation, the importance of the battle fought then." 'Wonderful flight' Flight Lieutenant William Walker, the eldest of the veterans who was shot down by a German fighter plane over the Channel, said the flight was going to be a "real pleasure". Speaking before boarding the plane, he said: "This wonderful flight with a few friends who I flew with is going to be a great day. "I've just had my 97th birthday and this is going to be like having an additional birthday celebration." The plane, which is also carrying 15 widows of Battle of Britain pilots, will fly across the Home Counties, the Isle of Wight, northern France, the Netherlands and parts of the North Sea. These areas were the main arenas of the Battle of Britain. It was over the English channel that Flt Lt Walker was shot down in 1940. Bailed out Based at an airbase in Surrey, Flt Lt Walker was often sent up two or three times a day. On one such mission he, along with two other planes, was scrambled to meet the enemy. They soon came under attack and his Spitfire was shot up by a Messerschmitt 109, the main German fighter plane. "My leader was shot down and badly burnt, my number two was killed and I got a bullet in my leg and my plane was shot to pieces. I bailed out at 20,000 ft," he recalled. As he gently descended he removed his boots, blew up his Mae West life jacket and landed in the water close to a wreck on the Goodwin Sands just off the Kent coast. He was rescued by a fishing boat and taken to Ramsgate, where he was met by a crowd. "They cheered as I came ashore and a dear old lady gave me a cup of tea," he said. Suffering from hypothermia, he was taken to hospital where he underwent an operation to remove a bullet from his ankle. When he woke up, a doctor was by his side. "He had a bullet in his hand and told me that when the surgeon prised it out of my ankle it flew out and hit the ceiling. He gave it to me and I still have it as a treasured possession," he told the BBC.
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Surprise garden find leads to tales of the lives lost in the region’s skies
from the nothern echo ‘I HAVE dug that border two or three times a year for the last ten years and I have never spotted anything,” says Joe Bench. “Then I came out one morning and there it was, sticking up out of the soil. “It’s such a coincidence, with this being the 70th anniversary of the Spitfire in the Battle of Britain.” Joe discovered a mini- Spitfire. It’s less than 2in long and appears to be made of lead. It could be a toy; it might have been a large tiepin. As well as being the anniversary of the Spitfire’s heroics in keeping the Luftwaffe at bay, there’s another coincidence. Joe made the find near his shop, Catterick Village Pet Supplies in Low Green, which was once beneath the Spitfires’ flightpath… THERE are 52 airmen buried in Catterick Cemetery. Each headstone tells a different version of the same story: young men being drawn from all over the world to die in this corner of North Yorkshire fighting for freedom. The story begins in 1914. Work was just beginning on the huts for the nearby garrison which would become the largest in Europe; the military railway was being extended over the Swale from the Richmond branchline. The airfield opened on a flat, grassy strip to teach the first Royal Flying Corps’ pilots how to fly early bi-planes. The fatalities soon followed, the unfortunate Second Lieutenant Maurice Thornely being the first on December 3, 1916. The following August, another four airmen – one from Dublin, one from Melbourne, another from New Zealand and the fourth a British captain – died, probably in two accidents involving the rudimentary flying machines. All five deaths occured before the Royal Air Force was officially formed on April 1, 1918 – this makes RAF Catterick one of the oldest military airfields in the world. After the First World War, the grass was allowed to grow for a little, but as the Thirties wore on, the base was modernised, and in August 1939, the first Spitfires arrived. The Spitfire is the symbol of Britain’s determined and stubborn resistance in 1940 (although the less glamorous Hawker Hurricane was the true workhorse of the Battle of Britain). It was designed by Reginald Mitchell – “the first of the few” – and entered service on August 4, 1938. A year later, Spitfires reached Catterick, and their first kill was on October 17, 1939, when pilot Albert Harris helped bring down a Heinkel bomber 20 miles off Whitby. Two days later its pilot and observer became the first German prisoners captured on British soil, when their inflatable liferaft drifted ashore at Sandsend, near Whitby. But by then Sergeant Harris, a Canadian, was dead, as the following day a bomber in which he was travelling crashed. He is buried in Berkshire. Harris’ attack fulfilled RAF Catterick’s crucial role in providing fighter cover for the North-East. Equally important, it was a resting and re-equiping station for the fighter squadrons which had been in the heat of the Battle of Britain over the south of England. Catterick was important enough to have its own decoy airfield – near Kirkby Fleetham, to attract the Germans’ aerial attention – and its own satellite, at Scorton. SCORTON airfield opened in October 1939. Initially it was an emergency landing strip so Catterick’s planes had somewhere to land should the Germans have bombed their runways in their absence (as happened in mid- June 1940). Soon, Scorton had its own contingent of Blenheim bombers. In 1941, its runway was enlarged to 4,800ft so it was longer than Catterick’s 3,300ft – the Swale on one side and the Great North Road on the other preventing Catterick extending – and it had its own decoy airfield near the village of Birkby. Catterick and Scorton airfields were multi-national. In 1942, Canadian nightfighters – “we kill by night” was their motto – were stationed at Scorton followed by 422 Squadron of the American IXth Air Force, which was equipped with sinister black Black Widow planes. There were Canadians at Catterick, too, accompanied by a Czech squadron of Spitfires and a Norwegian squadron of Hurricanes. And so Catterick Cemetery is a multinational place. The majority of the 52 airmen’s graves are British, but 12 are Canadian, four are New Zealand, three Australian, one Swedish and one Czech. The Swede is Flight Lieutenant Ole Bechgard, 31, who died on October 7, 1943, when his 604 Squadron Beaufighter from Scorton crashed during an airtest half-a-mile south of Catterick. The Czech is Sergeant Josef Gutvald, 29, from 313 (Czech) Squadron, which was formed at Catterick. He died on May 27, 1941, when his Spitfire crashed into farmland at Uckerby, Scorton, and its fuel tanks exploded creating a 10ft crater. With peace in 1945, such stories came to an end. Instead, Catterick starred in a fictional war story: it was the setting for many parts of the film The Way to the Stars (see previous Memories), starring John Mills and Renee Asherson. Because its runway was too short for modern aircraft, Catterick became a training base, particularly for the RAF Fire Service. In 1994, it became part of the Army’s garrison complex. The Americans left Scorton in July 1944. The Ministry of Defence, fearful of the Cold War, kept it until 1958 but gradually agriculture and quarrying took over its land and its buildings. Now there is very little left, apart from a tall pole from which its windsock once hung. Later this year a plaque is going to be unveiled detailing all the squadrons which served there. THERE were once two more graves in Catterick Cemetery. They contained the bodies of the first German airmen to die on British soil during the Second World War. They were the victims of a Spitfire flown by Group Captain Peter Townsend – then a Flight Lieutenant – who later became noted for his doomed liaison with Princess Margaret. On February 3, 1940, Townsend led the attack on a Heinkel bomber which had been strafing an unarmed trawler off Whitby. The Heinkel crashlanded near a farm four miles north of Whitby, killing two of its four-man crew. The German attack on the trawler so angered the seafaring folk of Whitby that it was considered too dangerous for Observer Rudolph Lenshacke and Flight Engineer Johann Meyer to be buried in the town. Their bodies were sent to Catterick, as it was the nearest airbase cemetery, where they were interred on February 6, the uncomfortable funeral captured by a Northern Echo photographer. In 1960, the two were exhumed and taken to the Cannock Chase German War Cemetery in Staffordshire, which had just been opened. ANOTHER Catterick first: the first active US serviceman to die in Britain during the Second World War met his end in Catterick airspace – before his nation had even entered the war. Lieutenant Follett Bradley Jr is buried in Arlington National Cemetery in Washington DC. The Arlington website says he was 24 when he died on June 22, 1941, “in an airplane accident near Catterick, Yorkshire, England”. It adds: “No details of the accident that caused the young officer’s death were made public.” Echo Memories understands that Lt Bradley was the son of Major-General Follett Bradley, who was a pioneering flier in the First World War and who was awarded a Distinguished Service Medal in 1944. Follett Jr was a junior officer observer who came to Britain surreptitiously in April 1941 – eight months before the Americans were formally bombed into the war by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. It is believed that Lt Bradley was taking part in a highaltitude research flight in a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bomber. Established aerial combat tactics said that the fighters – Spitfires, Hurricanes and Messerschmitts – should get higher than the heavier bombers and then dive at them out of the sun. The research flight was to find out how high a bomber could go. Lt Bradley and the six-man crew set off from a Suffolk airbase, and by the time they were over North Yorkshire, they had reached 31,000ft. There they flew into a terrible thunderstorm. The Flying Fortress was struck by lightning and plummeted 20,000ft, where it disintegrated. The only survivor was Flight Lieutenant KW Stewart, who was one of two medics on board testing airmen’s reactions at high altitude. He baled out before disintegration. Parts of the plane rained down on the Catterick area, scaring the residents. The Boeing’s engines crashed near Catterick Bridge. Lt Bradley’s remains were discovered near Scorton Grange. THERE were at least 20 air crashes over this corner of North Yorkshire during the Second World War, accounting for many young lives. Here’s a final war story. On June 9, 1943, bad weather prevented a Lancaster bomber from landing at its home base of RAF Thornaby. It was diverted to RAF Middleton St George but for an unknown reason the pilot, Sgt Francis Haydon, requested to land at Scorton. At 2.45am on his approach, he turned too steeply, stalled and crashed into farmland near East Lingy Moor Farm. All four aircrew – two British, two New Zealanders – perished. ■ With thanks to, among others, Colin Stegeman and Tony Pelton. Many thanks also to everyone who has been in touch regarding Gatherley Castle. More in a few weeks’ time.
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