Bangladesh 1971 Air Combat Simulator request to Oleg

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

About the Mohawk, didn't know they still operated that. Man, that's old...

to cannibalize is the word?

[Lonely Ringer]

Thanks for sharing .... butughlyyyyyy is the word........ no offence to the brave souls that flew 'em...especally anyone from the 131st MI Company. But they were fast...

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by airmalik

This conflict, like the later 1971 one, was very short lived with epic tank and air battles. I think the shortness of the conflict might actually make for a good sim scenario. Both sides were limited by resources but more so the smaller country of Pakistan and a proper campaign engine with resource mgmt would make this quite interesting.

I have never gotten my hands on a short conflict sim before, and you have a point there. Bad side might be that it would be 'too easy' if knowing where to go and what to do (i.e. some randomization inside a realistic envelope would make it the same conflict but impossible to read the future).

I suppose that the concept of fighting a battle (inside an operation) is the closest to it when speaking of the more vast wars.

The main thing speaking against this is that it is not well known in Europe and North America, and that none of those countries were combatants.

I love modern machinery but I hate self guiding missiles.

[Oleg Maddox]

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

[airmalik]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

Hi Oleg,

That wasn't a surprising response. I guess the limited market appeal means if it ever gets developed it'll be by a third party.

I love modern machinery but I hate self guiding missiles.

I'm with you on this. Unpredictable missiles, fast airplanes and low level gun fights for me!

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

buu

i will ask DCS people, maybe they will get some interest.

I hate strike fighters 2. Only f#### judies planes can be flyable. And graphics are crappy. Very arcade sim.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Don't even try it.

DCS tries to push it as modern as military contracts can.

There is virtually no interest in making another simulator brand, apparently. They're working in military-grade simulators, Lock On (2.0, just to finish it) and, the most expected, future DCS titles (currently DCS: A-10C).

As well as Maddox Games area is around the middle of 20th century, Eagle Dynamics plays it right in late 90's and specially 21st century air warfare, mainly without a fixed scenario, only proposed situations. This gives more possibilities if your creative.

Asking them to develop a whole new sim on the 70's is just non-sense. Bangladesh just isn't a very interesting war in terms of air combat, or at least not as interesting as having modern NATO & Russian military equipment put against each other. Maybe (and just maybe) if it involved a modern engagement of those countries, things would get more interesting, and it would involve many planes seen in DCS & Lock On.

This would simulate quite an interesting conflict, something really worth a simulator (still, there are still many things to come before a new scenario in DCS).

Pakistan has, in active service: F-16 (A/B, AM/BM & C/D being delivered), Mirage III & 5, F-7s, A-5s and Erieyes (plus transports, trainers and transport helicopters).

Seeing these aircraft meeting India's MiG-21 Bisons, MiG-27UPG, MiG-29S/SMT, Su-20MKI, Mirage 2000H, Jaguars, A-50s and Mi-25/35 (and transports & trainers) would be some fun, for sure.

But still, it's always better to simulate NATO vs. Russia, specially because all (or at least most) of the equipment India & Pakistan has was bought from either a NATO member or Russia (except for a few, these being either Chinese, home-built or imported from non-NATO countries).

[lbuchele]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

buu

i will ask DCS people, maybe they will get some interest.

I hate strike fighters 2. Only f#### judies planes can be flyable. And graphics are crappy. Very arcade sim.

And I hate to see anti-semitic people even here at a flight simulator forum...
Really a shame.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Ibuchele, chill out.

He doesn't hate Israel, only the fact that Strike Fighters isn't really fair, as it only gives you NATO & Israeli planes.

I agree with him, if Strike Fighters had some MiGs and etc. built in, it would make me happier. I don't own the game, but I'd surely buy it if it had some Russian planes as well.

(Por sinal, vi "Location" agora. Resumindo, o 'hermano' não falou nada demais, só que não gostava de Strike Fighters porque só tem avião israelense. "Judie" é tão ofensivo quanto chamar o cara de "japa", nem esquenta )

[lbuchele]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

Ibuchele, chill out.

He doesn't hate Israel, only the fact that Strike Fighters isn't really fair, as it only gives you NATO & Israeli planes.

I agree with him, if Strike Fighters had some MiGs and etc. built in, it would make me happier. I don't own the game, but I'd surely buy it if it had some Russian planes as well.

(Por sinal, vi "Location" agora. Resumindo, o 'hermano' não falou nada demais, só que não gostava de Strike Fighters porque só tem avião israelense. "Judie" é tão ofensivo quanto chamar o cara de "japa", nem esquenta )

Ok,Lucas , I need to apologize with the guy if I misunderstood.
I´m not jewish but don´t like any kind of religious or racial hate.
Speaking of Strike fighters, it´s a great game in fact if you really try it ,dogfight can be much more challenging than Il2.
I use to fly for the red side ( simple mod ,easy to find in the forums) and Israelis Mirages are easy meat to Mig 17 and the uber fighter Mig 19.
Mig 21 are fast but had poor handling and weapons.
in the Six Days war you can wipe out everything Israel throw on you easily.
Yom Kippur:fly low to avoid radar aquisition by F4 and you will be no touched by sparrows.
Lebanon war: forget it you will be dead just going inside the cockpit of a Mig or Su-7. F15A eagle rules the skyes,no match for it, only SAMs.
Bom ver um brazuca aqui no banana forum.Grande abraço.