Nividia or ATI, Intel or AMD

[l3uLLDoZeR]

Originally Posted by TonyD

Apparently delayed until March 2012 (http://semiaccurate.com/2011/05/30/b...delayed-a-bit/). A bit of irony above - 13ullDoZeR having a go at BullDozer

Haha...what can I say, they stole my name!

I'm always in upgrade mode..and don't ever count AMD out until the performance numbers show intel dominating!
I want the best price:performance ratio and competition is a win for consumers!

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Gaah! Well, I can't wait that long. It's a straight up choice between Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer then.

Skip Bulldozer. AMD has postponed it and will phase it out before the end of the year according to a leaked roadmap.

Sooo that leaves you with i5/i7 and nVidia...just like I told you in the first reply.

[ICDP]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

Skip Bulldozer. AMD has postponed it and will phase it out before the end of the year according to a leaked roadmap.

Sooo that leaves you with i5/i7 and nVidia...just like I told you in the first reply.

Please don't listen to deluded biased fools like this. Read reviews and make your own mind up. Anyone who has a wierd biased fanboy love for one corporation over another is not to be taken seriously. All these corporations want is your money, no point ginving them more than you need to or more than they deserve. As far as CPUs go the Intel i5 2500K is the best bang for buck and overclocks exceptionaly well. Best bang for buck graphics card is the AMD HD6950, then the GTX570 or HD6970.

These are hardware components and the best one to purchase depends on many factors.

1. Your requirements
2. Price
3. Performance
4. Features.

Look at all of the above and base your decision on logic such as price per performance ratio, or featureset etc. Do not base it on the deluded advice from a raving Nvidiot or FanATIc.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by WSP_Zoop

Current specs:
Intell E8400 @ 3.0Ghz
RAM 4GB
Nvidia GTS 250 1GB
PS 850watt
MoBo MSI P45 Platinum CrossFire only, no SLI
Vista 32bit
Monitor 1920x1200

Thanks for looking

Zoop I would get the 2500k a new motherboard and keep the rest of your old stuff and upgrade as needed.

your vid card and mine are pretty close and i also have 4 gigs of ram and i get pretty good fps on high settings (shadows off).
you would be amazed how a new MB/CPU upgrade can bump your FPS up

S!

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by ICDP

Please don't listen to deluded biased fools like this. Do not base it on the deluded advice from a raving Nvidiot or FanATIc.

phheeeleeezzeee, I fly with ATI (see sig) but reading the forum shows that nVidia has less problem...with this game...with this patch. 6950/70 users will be happy flyers too but if you'd have to make a choice then...!

Lookie here, Mr. ICDP.

Originally Posted by WSP_Zoop

Il-2 definitely runs better on Nividia than ATI using open GL.
However, on the last Vcard upgrade for IL-2 I bought ATI and had to change back to Nividia.
Is there a general consensus as to which brand of Vcard and CPU that works best with CoD.

OP flies IL-2 and might wanna keep doing that. 1-0 to nVidia.
Is there a general consensus as to which brand? 2-0 to nVidia.

But glad we agree on the Sandybridge though.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by TonyD

Mainboard: MSI Z68A-GD65 (4 SATA-3, 4 SATA-2, 6 USB3, Sli/X-fire)
Cpu: Intel Core i5 2500k 3.30 GHz with large Intel vertical cooler
Memory: name-brand DDR3 1333MHz, 2 x 4GB
Graphics: MSI Radeon HD6970 2GB ($200 cheaper than a GTX580 1.5GB)
OS: Windows 7 64-bit (cost not included)

To provide more overclocking headroom I presume?

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by WSP_Zoop

Il-2 definitely runs better on Nividia than ATI using open GL.
I'm considering a new rig for CoD.
The best bang for the buck seems to be AMD and ATI.
However, on the last Vcard upgrade for IL-2 I bought ATI and had to change back to Nividia.
Is there a general consensus as to which brand of Vcard and CPU that works best with CoD.
I have not played CoD, I have it backordered at Ubishop and it has not been made available as yet.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Depends on your budget. You can play CloD fine with AMD so dont listen to the intel fanboys.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

To provide more overclocking headroom I presume?

No, just price - gaming memory is double the price with a much smaller gain in performance. And you cannot OC an SandyBridge by raising the clock by much (it's on the cpu), which is why they have 'k' editions with unlocked multipliers.

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Depends on your budget. You can play CloD fine with AMD so dont listen to the intel fanboys.

Without a doubt, but for someone who wants a fast gaming machine that should last for a while, and is both faster and cheaper than the previous standard (LGA1366), SB is hard to resist. I prefer AMD for other reasons, one of them being the constant 'upgrade-ability',and am more than happy with performance.

[335th_GRAthos]

Just picking up on what ICDP mentioned regarding the 570GTX, he is right!

I fly nicely at 3072x resolution SLI with 70+ fps no problems as long as my VRAM is not full.
e.g. REPKA server islands with all options grass, shadows, roads etc etc.

If I fly on a heavier map (REPKA server channel island), the moment my VRAM is filled up above 1240Mb, I have 30fps.
If I lower the eye candy (roads, shadows, grass=OFF) the my VRAM will go up to 1140Mb and I continue enjoying my 70fps.

So, no matter what kind of card you are going to choose, make sure you have 1,5Gb and more if you want to enjoy.

My next card(s) will have 3Gb VRAM for sure (I only need a rig to fly IL2 and CoD so this is the only requirement), I bet it will be available by next year.

~S~

PS: thanks for mentioning ICDP, it made go back and start testing....

[Flyby]

Originally Posted by TonyD

As Flanker says, almost verbatim At the moment there is no better choice than the i5 2500k. As far as graphics cards go, this may provide some guidance if you’re thinking about the amount of VRAM that may be necessary: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...o_card_review/

When it comes to CloD, I found the additional memory allowed higher detail settings without a frame rate penalty, but the difference wasn’t huge. More of it certainly doesn’t hurt, though.

This from that article:

"In all of our gameplay testing we haven't hit the VRAM wall with the GeForce GTX 580 with 1.5GB of RAM. In Metro 2033 we had the opportunity to show you what this looks like. We found that at 2560x1600 with Very High quality and 4X MSAA enabled and Depth of Field enabled, the VRAM requirements are at least a 2GB video card. This graph above proves that.

If you look at the GeForce GTX 580 line, it has a framerate between 6-9 FPS, varying only by 3 FPS the entire run-through. This is a clear cut VRAM bottleneck imposed by the insufficient 1.5GB of RAM on the video card for these settings. When you look at the performance of the AMD Radeon HD 6970, with 2GB of RAM, the performance is better and there is a wider range of framerate over time. The same goes for the 3GB MSI N580GTX Lightning XE which is faster still, with varying framerate."

So, TonyD thanks for that link. It has helped me decide on the 6970. I won't be running at that 25x16 rez, though. Probably 19x10 (or 12). Two gb of vram should hold me in good stead with CLOD in that case. Nothing like data! Perhpas when CLOD implements that weather thing, and Crossfire gets optimized for CLOD, I could always add another card. BTW, I sold my i7-920. I'll buy an i5-2500k. It's not because of FPS. It's because of power usage. I never even used the 920 at any rate. It's off to a good home.
Flyby out