Why still no dive acceleration difference?

[realhammer]

Originally Posted by realhammer

I did a test, 90° dive at 5000m, 30% fuel, default weapon,
accelerate time 300km/h~700km/h:
LA5FN 12.43s
FW190A6 12.95s
P47-D27 12.25s
TEMPEST MK.V 12.23s
almost the same?

it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by realhammer

it's a shame to P47 and TEMPEST

yes I am agree with that.

It is a shame to all heavy interceptive fighters

think about it :

One of the biggest advantages of these heavy fighters is to dive to get
the speed advantage and then pull into a hammer action verticlely,

However, these heavy fighters are emasculated so far in all versions

[JtD]

Up to level top speed, the better climbing plane accelerates better. Looking at the planes given, based on level speed and climb rate, the order should be Tempest, P-47, La-5FN and Fw 190A-6 and the differences small. All true.

If you want bigger differences, don't dive vertically, use a shallow dive, and try higher speeds. Take a Fw 190A-9 and a Spitfire IX 25lb, start at 550 km/h at 1.5km altitude and dive them to a place 15 km away. Check their speeds.

[FC99]

In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it?

[Luno13]

100 meters is close enough to get shot down.

I guess those planes are only good divers if they're fast to begin with. You should never be slow in a P-47. If you're at the same speed as a Zero, you've already lost.

[BadAim]

These aircraft are not all that much different. They are similar in size weight power and performance, it only makes sense that they perform similarly, besides a vertical dive will be measuring the effects of gravity much more than any other factor.

As for relative performance in a fight, how the pilot uses the strong points of his aircraft against the weak points of his opponent is much more important than the actual performance. I get my butt kicked by guys in inferior aircraft all the time because they are better pilots.

[Untamo]

S!

In situations with me flying a Zero vs. a Spit or P-47 or whatnot, if we start in same E situ me in the six of the other plane (where else ), they always easily extend away after a short dive. I almost never get near the Vne because of the slow acceleration.

Zero is a kite that just doesn't have the mass for the dive acceleration and it clearly can be seen in-game.

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by FC99

In TAIC test between the Zero and P-47 when they started the dive from 10000ft at 220MPH IAS and dived until Zero reached maximum allowed speed (325MPH IAS). It took 30 seconds for that and the P-47 had 100 yards advantage over Zero.

Disapointing, isn't it?

yes, should have been more pronounced

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by BadAim

These aircraft are not all that much different. They are similar in size weight power and performance, it only makes sense that they perform similarly, besides a vertical dive will be measuring the effects of gravity much more than any other factor.

As for relative performance in a fight, how the pilot uses the strong points of his aircraft against the weak points of his opponent is much more important than the actual performance. I get my butt kicked by guys in inferior aircraft all the time because they are better pilots.

I do not agree

1. cut wing and round end wing are different very much from each other
2. power are different, Tempest has 2000 HP while Zero has only 1200 HP.
3. weight for La is around 2000kg when FW is 4000Kg or more

I dont think they can perform in the same way during the diving

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by Untamo

S!

In situations with me flying a Zero vs. a Spit or P-47 or whatnot, if we start in same E situ me in the six of the other plane (where else ), they always easily extend away after a short dive. I almost never get near the Vne because of the slow acceleration.

Zero is a kite that just doesn't have the mass for the dive acceleration and it clearly can be seen in-game.

how about La5, it is also a light plane with out mass enough to perform
a fast dive....why i can not get rid of it in FW till it reachs it's critical speed
limit??