Heads up-extra planes on website list... - Page 3

Jazzy Jase · #21 08-27-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by David603

They are optional, so if you don't want the gunpods you don't have to use them. Like all the planes, the K4 will have several armament options.

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.

redtiger02 · #22 08-27-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jase

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.

There's quite a few out there, just google it. The cannons weren't very effective against bombers as was their original intention, so they started fitting them to Ju-87s and were used to great effect as tank killers on the Eastern Front. It would be interesting to see that part of the game. Now if we can just sort out the actual release date, all this discussion might come to something.

Jazzy Jase · #23 08-27-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by redtiger02

There's quite a few out there, just google it. The cannons weren't very effective against bombers as was their original intention, so they started fitting them to Ju-87s and were used to great effect as tank killers on the Eastern Front.

Yes there's plenty of photos of 109's with underwing cannon attached, but they are mostly 109-G's. I cannot find any photo's 109 K-4's with underwing cannon.

David603 · #24 08-27-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jase

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.

Really? I thought it was common for K4s to be armed with the underwing 20mm gunpods.

Can't find a good source at the moment but there is a quote from wiki.

The 30mm cannon were extremely potent weapons, but they had a tendency to jam, and apparently all of the K-4s supplied to III./JG 26 were also equipped with 20mm-guns in the hated underwing tubs. Uffz. Georg Genth's regular aircraft was a G-10, but on occasion he flew a K-4. He preferred the G-10 as a dogfighter, as the K-4's bulky armament sharply reduced its manouevrability.

FOZ_1983 · #25 08-27-2009, 12:49 PM

Its a nice list,

would love to see another hurricane on it though, but not going to happen i dont think

Must be more to come onto it though as im still not seeing the P51-D.

Unless...im looking at it wrong or you guys know somethnig i don't?

A great list non the less, some nice kites on it.

haitch40 · #26 08-27-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

Its a nice list,

would love to see another hurricane on it though, but not going to happen i dont think

Must be more to come onto it though as im still not seeing the P51-D.

Unless...im looking at it wrong or you guys know somethnig i don't?

A great list non the less, some nice kites on it.

p51A and D r on the list

FOZ_1983 · #27 08-27-2009, 01:19 PM

The list on here yes, but not on the IL2 BOP site, when it has a drop down view and also a 3d rotation of the planes etc.....

sorry if im making this sound more complicated than it is.

Well on the site, im only seeing the "B" in british markings.

Jazzy Jase · #28 08-27-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David603

Really? I thought it was common for K4s to be armed with the underwing 20mm gunpods.

Can't find a good source at the moment but there is a quote from wiki.

The 30mm cannon were extremely potent weapons, but they had a tendency to jam, and apparently all of the K-4s supplied to III./JG 26 were also equipped with 20mm-guns in the hated underwing tubs. Uffz. Georg Genth's regular aircraft was a G-10, but on occasion he flew a K-4. He preferred the G-10 as a dogfighter, as the K-4's bulky armament sharply reduced its manouevrability.

I take anything I read on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt. I've had a look through some of my books and still found no photographic evidence of underwing cannon equipped K-4's. Though I have found that the type officially existed as K4/R4 it does seem like it was a rare occurance.

David603 · #29 08-27-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

The list on here yes, but not on the IL2 BOP site, when it has a drop down view and also a 3d rotation of the planes etc.....

sorry if im making this sound more complicated than it is.

Well on the site, im only seeing the "B" in british markings.

The B listed on the main site is a mix up, both the picture on the site and the trailers show a P51A but it is called a P51B by the plane list. Either this is an error and they have a P51B as well as the P51A and just put up the wrong picture, or whoever put the planes on the site just didn't know the planes properly.

David603 · #30 08-27-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzy Jase

I take anything I read on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt. I've had a look through some of my books and still found no photographic evidence of underwing cannon equipped K-4's. Though I have found that the type officially existed as K4/R4 it does seem like it was a rare occurance.

So do I but the problem is I have about 6 books on the Bf109 siting a home and nothing here at University. At least the quote from wiki is a secondary quote taken from a book, which makes it a bit more reliable, but I will try to find an online version of that book and see if it has more information.