Adding new maps: Which one would be the most useful?

[Sita]

Here Da_Don said that can give in good hand his projects

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...5034#msg435034


" WIP large map of Truk, complete small net map of Makin, huge pre-alpha map of New Guinea (Dutch and Australian together with New Georgia, New Britania, New Hannover, Lae, Hollandia, etc.),"

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Juri_JS

Icefire, if it is your first map project, I suggest to start with a smaller map, for example a Pacific Island, to learn the basics.
My suggestion - A northern Kurils map, showing Paramushir, Shumushu and the southern end of Kamchatka. The Japanese had based a large number of planes in the area and the islands were attacked regularly by USAAF bombers flying from Alaska. During the Soviet Invasion in August 1945 both sides used aircraft.

If you really want to start with a China map, Taiwan/Formosa with a small part of of the Chinese mainland would probably be the easiest area. Japanese planes based on Formosa bombed the Chinese mainland during the Sino-Japanese war and the island was attacked for the first time by Chinese bombers in 1938. In 1944 and 1945 there were large scale attacks by US carrier aircraft and land-based bombers.
But to be honest, I don't think such a large map can be done by one person alone, it has to be a team effort.

And concerning scale - I think it is important to do the map in 1:1. In my experience scaled down maps are often useless for creating historically accurate missions. For example I've once tried to build missions showing the Royal Navy raids on Petsamo and Kirkenes on the stock Murmansk map, but it was impossible, because the map isn't 1:1 and the fjords were much to narrow for torpedo attacks. In the end I had to use Mixx map of the same area in UP/HSFX.

I did a little research on the Kurile islands and WWII history there. That might be an interesting start! Not a lot of civilization (few roads or villages) and its possible to create a contained battle area. Useful for B-24, B-25, P-38 as well as A5M5, B5N2, Ki-43 and possibly Ki-44. Russian forces would be A-20, P-63, Yak-9 and Yak-3. Also older planes like the SB-2, IL-4 and I-16 from Kamchatka. Interesting.

I might get started here...

A dogfight version with some extra bases and an "Alaska" on the edge somewhere might be appreciated as well.

Not a lot of resources available either so some historical bits might be hard to find.

[ben_wh]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I did a little research on the Kurile islands and WWII history there. That might be an interesting start! Not a lot of civilization (few roads or villages) and its possible to create a contained battle area. Useful for B-24, B-25, P-38 as well as A5M5, B5N2, Ki-43 and possibly Ki-44. Russian forces would be A-20, P-63, Yak-9 and Yak-3. Also older planes like the SB-2, IL-4 and I-16 from Kamchatka. Interesting.

Agree that island map may make for a good start. There are basic Aleutian and Formosa map mods out there for reference if you want to take a look.

As for other regions: many others have mentioned already but there is still no stock map (and very few mod maps) that enable simulation of an end-to-end long range bomber raid/escort/'Defence of the Reich' type mission.

Cheers,

[ben_wh]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

IMO the best choice is a Sicily + Malta map. The historical value of such a map would be huge, a war front from June 1940 to July 1943 with many possible uses. Here you can see the current status of the map and a selection of its airfields. Some are partiallly working already but a lot is still to be done...

Great choice indeed. Would love to learn more about this and other MTO map projects (Tunisia, Italy mainland?)

Cheers,

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

IMO the best choice is a Sicily + Malta map. The historical value of such a map would be huge, a war front from June 1940 to July 1943 with many possible uses. Here you can see the current status of the map and a selection of its airfields. Some are partiallly working already but a lot is still to be done...
DISCLAIMER: this is not intended for 4.13

That is the map that I always wanted to play on! Interesting time and theatre, you can play both sides and are not at a major diasadvantage at either side, and it features many very nice planes! Please do go on and complete this map, even if it takes until 4.17!

[Juri_JS]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I did a little research on the Kurile islands and WWII history there. That might be an interesting start! Not a lot of civilization (few roads or villages) and its possible to create a contained battle area. Useful for B-24, B-25, P-38 as well as A5M5, B5N2, Ki-43 and possibly Ki-44. Russian forces would be A-20, P-63, Yak-9 and Yak-3. Also older planes like the SB-2, IL-4 and I-16 from Kamchatka. Interesting.

I might get started here...

A dogfight version with some extra bases and an "Alaska" on the edge somewhere might be appreciated as well.

Not a lot of resources available either so some historical bits might be hard to find.

In the past I have also done some research on the Kuriles in ww2. Send me a PM if you need any information.

[Notorious M.i.G.]

Honestly, I'd like some little freelance pocket-sized maps like the Mountains or Online3Summer ones, they're quite fun to make "quick fix" missions with 10 -15 mins flying time on. Something with some varied landscape, a few cities, and roads/railways for people to unleash their imagination on.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Juri_JS

In the past I have also done some research on the Kuriles in ww2. Send me a PM if you need any information.

Thanks Juri. I will do some preliminary work and if I can get my head around this then I will proceed at full steam and ask you about them. No sense in digging them up if I don't go anywhere than just talking about doing it

[IceFire]

Had a little time tonight to tinker... I've come up with what I think is the ideal map space. Juri (or others), any thoughts?



I've got Shumshu, Paramushir, a few other islands plus Kamchatka and Petropavlovsk airfield which I believe was host to most (or all)?) of 128 SAD including the P-63 equipped 888 IAP.

Playing around with the DERM stuff right now trying to get it to spit out a IL-2 resolution file but... having a bit of trouble. Will keep trying.

[Juri_JS]

I think much of the area north of Petropavlovsk can be cut away. Onekotan and Makanrushi didn't play an important role during WW2, but maybe it is better to have them on the map so Paramushir is not too close to the edge.

I will send you a PM with some useful links later.