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Whew, gotta cut down on the beer and sausage!
Good find guys. The devil certainly is in the details. 1C have indicated in the past that they model on real specs. Hopefully they will get to them before the final patch. Cheers Last edited by Catseye; 10-05-2012 at 03:37 PM. |
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Pilot is part of service load and included. It should still be noted that wartime tare figures and in game tare figure have little in common, what one has to look for is that fully loaded planes in game and real life have the same weight, and that usables like fuel and ammo correspond to historical figures. Empty weight historically, depending on air force and time, sometimes does not include guns, radio, armour and other things like survival gear, flares, gunsights, guncams, oxygen equipment etc., while in game it does.
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All 109s were too heavy when I last checked. Haven't noticed that this has been corrected, yet, either.
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FM and performace still need a lot of correction in CLOD:
- wrong weight of planes - overweight - wrong maximum speed - all fighters are too slow - wrong climb rate - too slow climb rate at medium to high alts - wrong maximum service celling - way to low service celling I know ( beacuse i was FM modder in old Il2) that such things was possible to make in il2 1946 i wonder what stops 1C to make it correct and more acccurate in CLOD??? |
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if buzzsaw is correct, and by all indications so far he is, then this is a massive problem for the hurricane which needs to be resolved quickly
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For example, since power and max speed are set, the engine may work out the acceleration from this, for which it also takes account weight. In the end, acceleration for example may be less due to increased weight, even though the plane reaches the same speed and turns just as well. OTOH it may well dive better than it should due to increased cross sectional densitity. In short the effects are secondary, not primary.
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The weight added for the cockpit bullet proof glass and over tank armour is a total of 434 lbs, seems excessive if the armour plating was simply a thin sheet of aluminum. My understanding it was actual steel plate. I will be checking further references. |
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Like I've said before, the FM of the Hurricane as listed in that other topic is essentially the same which was used in il-2 1946. Same fundamental flaws. It's a nasty surprise it was carried over 1:1. |
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Maybe you guys are talking about something different? The aircraft tested had so called fuel tank armour fitted already, and the overload condition was still on top of this.
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