Friday Update, January 27, 2012

[adonys]

now, THIS is an update, and a rather honest and realistic one.

thank you!

PS: I would prefer though that you would stop to keep pushing the "an aicraft alone it takes us one year" relative truth. Actually, building an aicraft up to IL2CoD standards it might take even 15-20 years to make, IF you're talking about how long it would take to a new born baby to do it. But for the 2012 game developing industry standard average modeller, it should't actually take more than a couple of months.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Isn't that what Luthier just said?

Mmmh what he said it's a bit of a clever formula: they're basically following EXACTLY the same path as IL-2,both in terms of positive and negative stuff. In five years' time we will have planes with a higher standard than the ones we have now (think about the Me109 in IL-2: a key aircraft that has never been substantially updated in 10 years,concentrating potential time and efforts to update it in project that nobody really cared about,like some obscure Russian planes), so we will have again a serious imbalance and a feeling of half-finished product.

They raised the bar of course,but they really need to look into standardisation of procedures.

Again,I want to be optimist and wait for the mother of all patches,I really hope I'll be proven wrong,but somehow doubt it..

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Were all in the same boat, why some people believe wild speculation is going to help leaves me scratching my head.

In all honesty your bullying doesn't help either mate

I think there's a lot of frustration overall,because I believe we all agree that the product is incomplete,what we disagree on is how the issue is being addressed really.

As Philip.Ed said, throwing fuel on the small fires more or less strategically lit up by whiners doesn't help,just try and ignore them

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Mmmh what he said it's a bit of a clever formula: they're basically following EXACTLY the same path as IL-2,both in terms of positive and negative stuff. In five years' time we will have planes with a higher standard than the ones we have now (think about the Me109 in IL-2: a key aircraft that has never been updated in 10 years,concentrating potential time and efforts to update it in project that nobody really cared about,like some obscure Russian planes), so we will have again a serious imbalance and a feeling of half-finished product.

They raised the bar of course,but they really need to look into standardisation of procedures.

Again,I want to be optimist and wait for the mother of all patches,I really hope I'll be proven wrong,but somehow doubt it..

Obscure....lol, if you are Russian it's a fair bet Spitfires and P-51's are obscure.

I seriously doubt you will ever feel you have been proved wrong too

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

In all honesty your bullying doesn't help either mate

I think there's a lot of frustration overall,because I believe we all agree that the product is incomplete,what we disagree on is how the issue is being addressed really.

As Philip.Ed said, throwing fuel on the small fires more or less strategically lit up by whiners doesn't help,just try and ignore them

Bullying? elaborate....

The point is the issue 'is' being adressed, the how's are irrelevant, it is beyond me how you are blind to the blatant anti 1C propaganda flung around by them.

[merlin1]

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Actually I agree with all of you. Just thinking, are all this candys (colour of the flames ect...) we reaily need now or when the game will be released... Many times we heard, on maximum settings we can play after few years from release date becouse todays hardware can not handle this game.

I do not want the game to which I'll need or spent a computer for 2000 + Eur. I assume that mr. Oleg knows this and is in a dilemma now, not for me, but for a lot of other potential users.

Once again.
Oleg and his team do a great job. No doubt ! He said, the game have a lot of bugs. Do not waste time on candys but the things that will make the game playible. This is just my opinion.
I love Il-2 very much, and I am very grateful to mr. Oleg some 10 years ..

Mysticpuma:
I love jour videos too... big thx.

rgr.



zapatista + 1.............

[FS~Phat]

Guys what some of you dont seem to understand, and I think this has been said before......

The modellers have pretty much finished CoD content and them moving on to the sequel doesnt impact the current bugs and they need to be working on something to keep the series going. (and their jobs)

The code base for the sequel is the same code for CoD...

Dont quote me on this.... but.. When the patch comes out it will most likely have the same engine and most of the features from 'BoM' (or whatever you want to call the sequel) and some of those features will only be activated if you buy the sequel. As such, so will the new content be in the sequel too.

So what exactly do you think you will be loosing by them working on the sequel? A bit of content that will probably be added by 3rd party developers as originally intended????? I can wait, and I think a few of you need to be a little more patient. I have a pretty good feeling that it will be worth it.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I don't think you realise the damage you cause by maintaining this pathetic opposition; or this rather tedious 'high horse' approach.

What?

You seem to have a strange tendency to ignore the manner in which the whiners post thier "opinions".

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Obscure....lol, if you are Russian it's a fair bet Spitfires and P-51's are obscure.

I seriously doubt you will ever feel you have been proved wrong too

come on man, you know what I mean.
For example, that first Russian jet we had, how much time went into it and how much was it actually used? Some of the stuff they made flyable took a considerable amount of time and was of little or no use, while they never fixed the Me109 shadow bug or improved the 3d model.
That's what I mean with an organised and effective planning of workload.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Bullying? elaborate....

The point is the issue 'is' being adressed, the how's are irrelevant, it is beyond me how you are blind to the blatant anti 1C propaganda flung around by them.

I still believe that primary meaning of a community is to collaborate, putting everybody's skills to use. Then we're all entitled to an opinion. Some people feel ripped off, and it's understandable, you don't wanna buy something and not being able to use it before a year, some people are happy with what they have and are hopeful about the future.

I'm not pessimist, just keep on seeing the signs of a development that is making the same mistakes the previous management did, that's it.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

Guys what some of you dont seem to understand, and I think this has been said before......

The modellers have pretty much finished CoD content and them moving on to the sequel doesnt impact the current bugs and they need to be working on something to keep the series going. (and their jobs)

The code base for the sequel is the same code for CoD...

Dont quote me on this.... but.. When the patch comes out it will most likely have the same engine and most of the features from 'BoM' (or whatever you want to call the sequel) and some of those features will only be activated if you buy the sequel. As such, so will the new content be in the sequel too.

So what exactly do you think you will be loosing by them working on the sequel? A bit of content that will probably be added by 3rd party developers as originally intended????? I can wait, and I think a few of you need to be a little more patient. I have a pretty good feeling that it will be worth it.

I also think they have every right to work on a sequel. I just think it was a huge mistake to announce they are working on a sequel and then post that certain features will be held out for the sequel. Given the state that COD is in, it would have been better to let us believe that they were completly focused on fixing the existing product. After a patch or two that fixes a lot things is released and things have calmed down, then announce you are working on a sequel.