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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-01-2011, 08:15 PM
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let's play some "if - then"

Question: Will CoD gain from a SLI/xfire setup?
Luthier:yes

> next Q: more fps for Sli or xfire?
Now L is screwed double:
1st: he doesn't have the benchmarks for all possible combos.
2nd: he would recommend one brand over the other. Earlier he said there will be NO difference.
- User A gets better results with the expected inferior setup than user B with L's recommend system: Whining.


> how much gain of fps can I expect?
Whatever number he gives you is pure guessing as you don't know his exact setup.
- Ppl can't reproduce the numbers: Whining, lier, bastard, we need tar an feathers...


Ergo: He's well advised to STFU, something he probably learned in this forum.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:17 PM
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My goodness, we love to complicate things around here..... There are very few games that show significant performance increases with multi-core (or multi) GPU's at standard resolutions. It's probably not worth buying multiple cards or a multi-core card for anyone who is not running either multiple monitors or a very large monitor at very high resolution, that's all Luthier was saying. If you have a setup like this it will work, but you might not get a massive return for your buck. Simples.

Edit: and what Swiss said.......
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:24 PM
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Cant believe this debate about dual GPU's is still going on, whatever it is for CoD its a done deal now.

Also if CoD does support SLI and or Crossfire its probably the first hard core flight sim to do so ... I imagine it doesn't, but that's just a hunch on my part, its not a deal breaker on my part either.

Some people just like to moan I guess?
Its not a deal breaker because you dont have such setup.I understand that not everyone has more than one gpu but setups like that have been increasing a lot and every year more and more games take advantage of it.I almost double my frames per second in almost all of my games when I bought my second card for less than half the price of what the first was.Plus there are a lot of people running multi monitor setups and at resolutions higher than 1920x1200 a second gpu is a must.This is something that should not be left out.I dont care about dx11 I know great graphics can be achieved with dx10 but not having a performance gain with sli or crossfire would be sad if there isnt.This is my first and only complaint so far,it even isnt a complaint is just that im concerned with the situation and not being sure.As I said before there's nothing left but waiting.Maybe the game runs perfectly with just one gpu, lets hope for that.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:27 PM
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My goodness, we love to complicate things around here..... There are very few games that show significant performance increases with multi-core (or multi) GPU's at standard resolutions. It's probably not worth buying multiple cards or a multi-core card for anyone who is not running either multiple monitors or a very large monitor at very high resolution, that's all Luthier was saying. If you have a setup like this it will work, but you might not get a massive return for your buck. Simples.

Edit: and what Swiss said.......
Are you serious????What are you playing super mario 64????Read my post above and if you dont believe me then go and check some benchmarks or search for videos on the web.1920x1080 is the standard resolution right now and having the benefit of a second gpu can make the difference between barely playable and really enjoyable.I know this for a fact as I have experienced it and others with similar setups would tell you the same.

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Old 02-01-2011, 08:38 PM
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You presume too much my friend ... my second rig has two ATI HD4870's in Crossfire, but that's not my flight sim rig.

Whatever, I'm not prepared to get inter-wound in any more of this negativity, it just brings the enthusiasm and anticipation of the product down and is bound to put off newcomers to the hobby ... IMHO.

Thats just me though, some folk seem to get off on it ... and I'm not talking about you
Have you had problems with that CF setup?People seem to ditch CF because of driver problems.And no Im not presuming you are, just asking.Im going to stop posting about the subject as its clear that we are not getting to any agreement on it.So for the sake of the thread Im not gonna post anything related to it.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:46 PM
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Plus there are a lot of people running multi monitor setups and at resolutions higher than 1920x1200 a second gpu is a must.
Et voilà. If they need SLI anyway, why does the fps increase matter so much?
The second card is there either way.
Wait. Benchmark. Share results.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:50 PM
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Occasional problems ... I'm actually typing on the Crossfire rig just now, some games seem to benefit from it, others less so, no flight sim I've tried on it does.

Call of Duty 4 benefits greatly from Crossfire, others like a fully patched and modded STALKER (the original one) don't like Crossfire at all, it's OK though because you can make profiles for each game and then make a short-cut to the desktop, my profile for STALKER disables Crossfire and uses just one card, then say for example I fire up COD 4, it will use Crossfire without a re-boot.

Sorry if I seemed negative in my last post, but the constant bitching some do does drag things down.
No problem,lets just wait and see.
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Old 02-02-2011, 07:45 AM
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i really pray for no glitches while using nvidia 3d vision ingame...
i managed to enable 3d on current il-2. 3d cockpit is awesome, distance from enemy aircraft senses more realistic... but this doubling crosshair of colimmator looks terrible.
hope maddox team now set correct distance of all and any elements of ingame environment.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:44 AM
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Occasional problems ... I'm actually typing on the Crossfire rig just now, some games seem to benefit from it, others less so, no flight sim I've tried on it does.

Call of Duty 4 benefits greatly from Crossfire, others like a fully patched and modded STALKER (the original one) don't like Crossfire at all, it's OK though because you can make profiles for each game and then make a short-cut to the desktop, my profile for STALKER disables Crossfire and uses just one card, then say for example I fire up COD 4, it will use Crossfire without a re-boot.

Sorry if I seemed negative in my last post, but the constant bitching some do does drag things down.

BTW: I'm on a 27" 1920x1080 LCD for both rigs, the GTX 570 SC is fine on everything I've tried it at this resolution so far, and I use a secondary LCD for FSX GPS ETC on that one too.
Everything is supported, but testing of advantage from SLI we don't plan. It will work anyway.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:48 AM
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i really pray for no glitches while using nvidia 3d vision ingame...
i managed to enable 3d on current il-2. 3d cockpit is awesome, distance from enemy aircraft senses more realistic... but this doubling crosshair of colimmator looks terrible.
hope maddox team now set correct distance of all and any elements of ingame environment.
Stereo with glasses in most cases is the task of the card manufacturer and especially their drivers.
I know that some modern features of different 3D engines are not polished in 3D glasses drivers. There is some time problems with various of occlusion, SSD, multiple shadows, etc

Just several days ago we was need to switch off some advanced graphics features that to make product running well in a stereo mode with LCD glasses.
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