Communication and work with community

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by csThor

I do, however, have a question for future projects. How much emphasis is being put on gameplay aspects (single missions, campaigns etc)?

It's a second question. The first and main question is: "what type will be our next project, MMO or standard game?". You know that I can't say about this.
Single missions and campaigns is my main work. I began to make its in 2002. I have now three disks with the offline campaigns that were released in Russia, and I led the development of missions and campaigns for 3 add-ons. If we need to make offline - all will be well. I hope)

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by csThor

Bringing up Jason's methods of doing PR and customer relations will not change the way luthier does his business. He's the kind of developer who prefers to hide in the office and not be bothered. You will no more get a more meaningful PR from him than a straight and truthful answer out of a politician.

BlackSix really does have one of the most ungrateful jobs I've ever seen, one which I would not want for all the money in the world.

I do, however, have a question for future projects. How much emphasis is being put on gameplay aspects (single missions, campaigns etc)? Neither Il-2 nor CloD were ever renowned for brilliant offline gameplay. The best campaigns were always made by the community, either free or as payware. With CloD the gameplay part is not there (and no sugarcoating will gloss that over), probably due to the general troubles and time constraints. But how much emphasis is being put on rectifying the issue in future products? In my opinion a collection of well-designed, tested and documented single missions and immersive offline campaigns is a showcase for what a game engine can achieve. It's, IMO, one of the most effective marketing tools of a game. Is that on MG's scope at all?

I don't agree at all to some parts.

Jason bought into a finished and working game engine and had a very good idea what he can accomplish with it, and could relay that message confidently to their community.

Luthier is working with an unfinished game engine and can't possibly know for sure what it will be capable of till its finished. We've demanded info in the past, the development told us was they are trying to achieve, and we crucified them when they didn't get it right. I'm sure the announcement was delayed until they have a better idea where the development can go in the future. The RC patch and the readme should be very revealing if there is even a future for the development.

As far as campaigns and missions go, I would prefer that the developer continues adding FMB features and fine tuning the game engine so the community can build their own campaigns and missions. The guys in the development had no chance building a decent BOB campaign given the unfinished tools, features, and performance issues of the sim when they were building those Campaigns. That said, I'm sure BlackSix could build a very complex and historic Russian Campaign given the proper tools, features, and performance capabilities.

Originally Posted by Chivas

I don't agree at all to some parts.

Jason bought into a finished and working game engine and had a very good idea what he can accomplish with it, and could relay that message confidently to their community.

Luthier is working with an unfinished game engine and can't possibly know for sure what it will be capable of till its finished. We've demanded info in the past, the development told us was they are trying to achieve, and we crucified them when they didn't get it right. I'm sure the announcement was delayed until they have a better idea where the development can go in the future. The RC patch and the readme should be very revealing if there is even a future for the development.

As far as campaigns and missions go, I would prefer that the developer continues adding FMB features and fine tuning the game engine so the community can build their own campaigns and missions. The guys in the development had no chance building a decent BOB campaign given the unfinished tools, features, and performance issues of the sim when they were building those Campaigns. That said, I'm sure BlackSix could build a very complex and historic Russian Campaign given the proper tools, features, and performance capabilities.

How did disastersoft manage to build a campaign if 1C failed so miserably?

[JG52Krupi]

I don't care how good a game the sequel could be if it's a mmo type with only official servers i will not even contemplate purchasing it.

I can't believe it's even being considered.

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's a second question. The first and main question is: "what type will be our next project, MMO or standard game?". You know that I can't say about this.
Single missions and campaigns is my main work. I began to make its in 2002. I have now three disks with the offline campaigns that were released in Russia, and I led the development of missions and campaigns for 3 add-ons. If we need to make offline - all will be well. I hope)

B6, I have to say that your english is getting better every day!!
Are you still using a translate program or are actively taking english classes??

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by Anders_And

B6, I have to say that your english is getting better every day!!
Are you still using a translate program or are actively taking english classes??

Thanks, I use a dictionary for search the unknown words. Also I watch the video tutorials and read books. I would like to have more time for this. We would have avoided many problems if I could give a more detailed explanation, how I do it on the Russian forum.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's a second question. The first and main question is: "what type will be our next project, MMO or standard game?". You know that I can't say about this.
Single missions and campaigns is my main work. I began to make its in 2002. I have now three disks with the offline campaigns that were released in Russia, and I led the development of missions and campaigns for 3 add-ons. If we need to make offline - all will be well. I hope)

Quite simply, no, that was not my question. Your answer, however, implies a potential conflict between MMO plans and standard gameplay with offline content. A release only as MMO would be yet another shot into MG's own knee since I don't care one bit about the pointless clusterf*ck that is online gameplay.

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

Thanks, I use a dictionary for search the unknown words. Also I watch the video tutorials and read books. I would like to have more time for this. We would have avoided many problems if I could give a more detailed explanation, how I do it on the Russian forum.

+1

[planespotter]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's a second question. The first and main question is: "what type will be our next project, MMO or standard game?". You know that I can't say about this.
Single missions and campaigns is my main work. I began to make its in 2002. I have now three disks with the offline campaigns that were released in Russia, and I led the development of missions and campaigns for 3 add-ons. If we need to make offline - all will be well. I hope)

I like this it give me great confidence! People say a lot of bad things about RAF campaign in Cliffs of Dover (which is fair, a lot of mistakes were in) but the LW campaign was quite good. And Desastersoft campaigns rock, they show what is really possible.

But why do you say 'IF' we need to make offline????

Of course you do! Most players are offline players, not online. No new offline content means you only get a small percent of potential players unless you are going for the arcade demografik where you will have too much competition with War Thunder and World of Planes. And I have to tell you, I am playing War Thunder already and it is fine for arcade 'sim' game - fantastic grafix, ok flight models, works very good and easy to get online, good game modes. You will not be able to beat War Thunder with Cliffs of Dover platform (sorry, but it is true) if you are trying to compete in that MMO area.

You are scaring me!

PS your english now is excellent and better than me and I have an american father (somewhere )

[klem]

Originally Posted by csThor
I do, however, have a question for future projects. How much emphasis is being put on gameplay aspects (single missions, campaigns etc)?

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's a second question. The first and main question is: "what type will be our next project, MMO or standard game?". You know that I can't say about this.
Single missions and campaigns is my main work. I began to make its in 2002. I have now three disks with the offline campaigns that were released in Russia, and I led the development of missions and campaigns for 3 add-ons. If we need to make offline - all will be well. I hope)

BlackSix, I think we need to be careful and not confuse "CoD sequel" with "next project". I assume these are entirely different "projects"?