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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-25-2012, 10:48 AM
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Yikes. Anyone else getting nervous?
Jugding from the way they planned CoD the plans will fail anyway but it might be advisable to deactivate any auto-update function
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:54 AM
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Some of simmers are also gamers console... an epic fail in computer world may not engage to trust in console world at minima. And i'd would not promote any 1C products to friends.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:22 AM
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It's the good advice, thanks, but you don't know about our inner situation and I can't say about it also. We will make that we can.
Well.... that's 'reassuring'. Why do I get a sense of impending doom?

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Will see… but the good all times are gone for good. Let see what the new ones bring.
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I think I can guess what the new ones will bring. Mediocrity, all flash and no substance, dumbed down slop......

I really hoped flight simulators would remain one of the few things on this planet where an intelligent person could still enjoy themselves without having to make constant reparations to those "less able". I see a future of arcadey flight models, meaningless "achievements"..... give it a couple of years and we'll have end of mission bosses.

Don't get me wrong... I enjoy an arcade game as much as the last person... I even watch the occasional soap opera for cheap laughs.... but, in the same way that I can sit on the loo and laugh at the ridiculous stories in a women's magazine, I don't expect to read about that rubbish when I pick up a book on Nietzsche.

Specialist hobbies are being killed off for a fast buck.

At least we still have 1946, I suppose.....

Elitist? Yep! And proud of it!

Is it the devs fault? not really..... it's society's fault.

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Old 06-25-2012, 12:08 PM
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It is because after this next patch Cliffs of Dover will be abandoned. The devs, what are Russian, are now using the Cliffs of Dover sales to do the sim they really wanted to do, which is Battle for Moscow. The reason why they even are patching is just to keep some sales of Cliffs of Dover going, to make the money needed for BfM which is still years away.

Is not that hard to understand. Russian devs, Russian theatre, Russian planes.

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i get the impression that people still think battle for moscow and cliffs of dover will be two separate games.

really?
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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i get the impression that people still think battle for moscow and cliffs of dover will be two separate games.

really?
Are you not picking up anything slightly worrying from what B6 said? lol

(DISCLAIMER: This isn't really even speculation, by the way, just stating my feelings which are, in no way, official statements about 1C, nor should they be taken as such. That said, vague statements about internal situations and plans for CloD can only really lead to wild speculation on the part of the customer. lol)

I'm not even 100% sure there will be a Battle For Moscow... at least as the add on for Cliffs of Dover, following the IL2 Sturmovik model.

I have a hat, a knife and fork and salt, pepper & ketchup at the ready.... and I have to say I really hope I get to chow down on it soon.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:47 PM
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I do wish you chaps would stop referring to 'The Battle of Moscow'.

Some months ago B6 said this was the wrong thing to call the sequel (sorry, can't be bothered finding the link).

Since then it's been referred to as 'The Sequel'. There have been loads of clues in the screenshots. The first ones showed great expanses of water, like you'd find in the Gulf of Finland or lake Ladoga. This week's screenies show a big river and marshland like you'd find on the banks of the Volga at it's southern end, so have a root around in Google Earth and take some guesses.

It might be more interesting to speculate on this than the future of 'Cliffs'.

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Old 06-25-2012, 12:57 PM
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Black Six has quite clearly stated on numerous occasions that the release of any new sim will depend on getting the game engine running with COD correctly.

If fixing this part of the sim is so important, it is my opinion that they are doing everything possible to do it and secure the long term viability of the series.

Personally I am looking forward to a change in the format of the sim. Black Six's cryptic statements and hints have got me intrigued.

As a long term flight simmer (I flew my first sim on an Apple][+ ) I did not buy Cliffs of Dover as a one off game. I bought it as the first of a new series of flight sims and I am willing to put up with reasonable amount of growing pains.

The facts are that the sim we are playing today is a significantly improvement from the one that was released. And as WWII combat flight sims go it is a significant improvement from the original IL2 series or any other sim in the genre. The only thing it is lacking is content - Maps planes and other objects.

Black Six, please pass on our best wishes to the rest of the development team. I and many others are waiting on the edge of our seats to see what you have in store for us.

Thanks

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Old 06-25-2012, 12:59 PM
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It's the good advice, thanks, but you don't know about our inner situation and I can't say about it also. We will make that we can.
With all respect B6, IMO you should better not spread that kind of statements as they may lead to speculations. Reading between those lines.....
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:16 PM
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For instance, compare these two shots..................
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:32 PM
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For instance, compare these two shots..................
Cool! Where is it???

Very neat bit of google earthing!
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