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[Havoc04]

Originally Posted by Tiger27

Tree, I was watching the riots on the news the last couple of days and reading your posts above it reminded me of when that young lad was given what looked like assistance, while all the time they were robbing him, not wanting too trivialise what was obviously a very nasty situation over in the UK, but your posting style is similar, you post as if you are being of assistance when really you are taking another opportunity to stick the virtual knife into Luthiers back, you need to stop taking the state of this game as a personal insult, it's moving forward, relax, eventually we will have the sim we were hoping for at release, good things come to those who wait

Agreed mate.. At every turn
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[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Tiger27

Tree, I was watching the riots on the news the last couple of days and reading your posts above it reminded me of when that young lad was given what looked like assistance, while all the time they were robbing him, not wanting too trivialise what was obviously a very nasty situation over in the UK, but your posting style is similar, you post as if you are being of assistance when really you are taking another opportunity to stick the virtual knife into Luthiers back, you need to stop taking the state of this game as a personal insult, it's moving forward, relax, eventually we will have the sim we were hoping for at release, good things come to those who wait

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Tree your constant feet stomping is not doing anything, we agree the game wasn't released in the state it should have been, that said sli/xfire until recently was hardly ever supported upon a games release.

And some ppl have said it works other say it works but with flickering, at least you get better fps with my xfire I get a 20fps drop

[HeavyDelta]

What about this for a business model?

Instead of handing the customer a cow pattie for 50 bucks. Hand us a cow pattie for 10 bucks. Every subsequent patch is another 5 bucks. This would drive the process more quickly, not insult us with trash for hard-earned money, incentivize the developers to deliver. If at any time you want to abandon ship, you are out far less money (for instance if the first patch doesn't deliver what it promises to deliver) and would lead to a lot less feelings of being taken advantage of as a loyal customer from a previous product line?

I find myself in a fascinating postion. When I joined the boards in 2000 with IL-2, I was slagged as a fanboy because I loved it. My argument then was "hey, for 50 bucks you cannot get this many hours of entertainment ANYWHERE in the flight sim world".

Now my argument is "I don't like paying 50 bucks for unfinished, mostly unplayable content. I think that is a bad business model." Now, I'm slagged as a whiner! LOL

I'm having a ten year-span identity crisis!

Originally Posted by Havoc04

Agreed mate.. At every turn
+1

lol, Havoc your just miffed because i proved you wrong, Im still waiting on that apology by the way.

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

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Tree your constant feet stomping is not doing anything, we agree the game wasn't released in the state it should have been, that said sli/xfire until recently was hardly ever supported upon a games release.

And some ppl have said it works other say it works but with flickering, at least you get better fps with my xfire I get a 20fps drop

Krupi, Im not foot stomping I am trying to help here, Luthier thinks SLI is fixed, its not. How can it be fixed in future patches when he thinks it already works, capiche??

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Krupi, Im not foot stomping I am trying to help here, Luthier thinks SLI is fixed, its not. How can it be fixed in future patches when he thinks it already works, capiche??

In that case Tree with have vastly different opinions on how to inform someone of a problem .

Or maybe its because so many of your posts have snide and sarcastic twists to them I just see it in every post of yours regardless...

[Havoc04]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

lol, Havoc your just miffed because i proved you wrong, Im still waiting on that apology by the way.

I would give an apology if you DIDN'T crave it so much, and just another feather in you're cap! I will not sir. But in all honesty. You have been trying to shoot down Luther at every turn waiting for him to slip up and BANG you post about it and keep on rubbing it in. I'm not saying you're the cause as to why he dose not post regularly here anymore. But you certainly DON'T help matters either.

I'm also not saying you're THE only one, There a couple that just LOVE to shoot down rub in the salt and generally turn it into a wine and cheese fest. But that's all i shall say on the matter. Nothing i say or do will make you do what YOU wish to do period.

So good luck to you Sir!

Regards

Originally Posted by Havoc04

I would give an apology if you DIDN'T crave it so much, and just another feather in you're cap! I will not sir. But in all honesty. You have been trying to shoot down Luther at every turn waiting for him to slip up and BANG you post about it and keep on rubbing it in. I'm not saying you're the cause as to why he dose not post regularly here anymore. But you certainly DON'T help matters either.

I'm also not saying you're THE only one, There a couple that just LOVE to shoot down rub in the salt and generally turn it into a wine and cheese fest. But that's all i shall say on the matter. Nothing i say or do will make you do what YOU wish to do period.

So good luck to you Sir!

Regards

You dont get it do you, Luthier as stated that SLI is working, its not about shooting him down, its about letting him know that its not working so it gets fixed. I could be wrong, so I have respectfully asked Luthier to tell us how he knows it is working, i may be a pain, but Im not partial to having the wool pulled over my eyes.

Now your words previously were as follows, well you were wrong, you were quick enough to jump on my back now you should 'man up' and say sorry buddy i got it wrong.

Havoc04
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Tree just throws stuff in and mixes the pot when it looks as though a thread is starting to get boring.......
And as the above poster said..

"The problem is that Luthier thinks it is already fixed."
Link for proof please.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by HeavyDelta

What about this for a business model?

Instead of handing the customer a cow pattie for 50 bucks. Hand us a cow pattie for 10 bucks. Every subsequent patch is another 5 bucks. This would drive the process more quickly, not insult us with trash for hard-earned money, incentivize the developers to deliver. If at any time you want to abandon ship, you are out far less money (for instance if the first patch doesn't deliver what it promises to deliver) and would lead to a lot less feelings of being taken advantage of as a loyal customer from a previous product line?

I don't want to pay for patches. Content, yes. Fixes, no.

Rise of Flight's business model seems to have worked OK. You get the base game and then buy individual aircraft and stuff to taste.

[Gamekeeper]

...............and once again a thread becomes about tree