Friday 2010-06-17 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by JVM

Oh, I understand...but visibly some modellers were not completely aware of the finer details of the structure of what they were modelling...and Damage Modelling is an art which goes far beyond 3D modelling...a bit closer to aeronautical engineer, maybe?

To my knowledge, on all SoW:BoB models visual damage is modeled respectively to the materials the damaged parts were made of in RL and to their physical properties. Besides, some of the 1C modelers are former aviation industry engineers with experience in airframe design and material strength. So, they know very well, how materials in general and airframes of different design in particular behave/look like under damage.

So, here I wouldn't worry. Within the general game limitations the visual damage will be modeled as close, as possible to the RL and, certainly, will depict the physical damage modeling with the highest possible fidelity.

[nearmiss]

Several very nice improvements

Trees are placed next to the edges of the roads and streams.

This is so much an improvement over Il2.

Will ground vehicles be able to travel over countryside, passing around obstructions?

Can boats travel up and down waterways?

Is artillery now able to shoot over hills and obstructions?

Is artillery shooting distance comparable to actual distance?

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Never seen any software that did actual real time object deformation in that way. Virtually all games use tricks to change out one object for another that shows damage.

Remember the antennas of the armored vehicles Oleg has shown us recently. They bend actually.

[philip.ed]

Doesn't RoF incorporate some bending features....?

[imaca]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

Remember the antennas of the armored vehicles Oleg has shown us recently. They bend actually.

Yep, but thats actually a reasonably simple calculation. It's not the same thing as actually calculating what happens to metal part which has some force applied to it until it is permanently deformed. This is done in engineering using FEA (finite element analysis). Even a relatively simple part with a single force applied cannot be done in real time.
A propeller turning and having repeated dynamic forces applied to it as it turns and hits the ground is something I would imagine taking hours if not days to calculate with any realism.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Doesn't RoF incorporate some bending features....?

There is no way the bending is calculated in real time.
I would guess there are a number of pre-defined deformed models which are selected based on the speed and angle of collision.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Doesn't RoF incorporate some bending features....?

I have to laugh.

ROF doesn't even get crashes modeled correctly, in the least.

And now with neoqb being forced out in favor of takeover by 777 Studios, I believe that ROF is in it's last days.

[JVM]

Why would you say that, ElAurens?

I understand 777 Studios is quite dedicated to the aerial simulation world (didn't they have one of their own in development?) and maybe it was Neoqb which was unable to pursue the development for some reason and in this case that a chance for RoF to continue?
I am just asking, I do not know the answer...

JV

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I have to laugh.

ROF doesn't even get crashes modeled correctly, in the least.

And now with neoqb being forced out in favor of takeover by 777 Studios, I believe that ROF is in it's last days.

Fair enough, sorry my ignorance annoys you.

[katdogfizzow]

stunning!

[fireflyerz]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Fair enough, sorry my ignorance annoys you.

Dont worry .ed , its not your fault your not in the elitest nobhead club , I think they go by the code name "senior member" , Im thinking of talking down to somone next week , that should be enough to get me in dont you think...?

Ps , Whats happend to your avatar on the forums with no names , I was enjoying chopping the fingers off Mr Winstoned.