The Crystal Ball 2

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Look, if everyone's so frustrated, why not jump on the ATAG server and pretend that every aircraft on the opposing team is your favourite target for complaint?

Or that any of the ground targets are the 1C offices?

Seems a better idea to me than sitting around here creating thread after thread of moaning.

ATAG is great, but I suggest to double or triple the AI bombers, as they seem to catalyze most of the pseudo-coordinated action in the server.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by priller26

I doubt seriously IC, like most Russian companies, really have caught on the western notion of customer service, trust, and how it directly correlates to the digits in their balance sheets. That is entirely the problem, and why they don't give a flying fart. Also, they don't realize you cant push out a substandard product and have those of us who have grown up in the Western market embrace it with open arms. Wondering, who beta tested this thing? I know we have been round this forever, I guess we are, but at some point, you get tired of beta testing a game you have paid for and want the finished product.

By reading a bit the Sukhoi.ru forum, this kind of assumptions about a supposedly superior self consciousness of Western consumers is seriously flawed. The customers there are even angrier.

[drewpee]

How long has it been since the last patch? We were told a patch is coming soon, any day/week and still we after weeks (not soon) we still know nothing new. If there is a problem let us know don't tell us any day now.
I have always been a FAN BOY and tried to be positive. I've played the game every week. The problem is I get told a patch is coming I play a little less because if I'm playing with a porked FM I'm learning bad habits. No problem I'll wait. But now I'm starting to get worried. I get the idea that the sequel is getting worked on when ALL EFFORT should be delivering old promises first.
I mite be wrong but unless I get told something I will start to loose faith.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by Jack Morris

Got some news for you asshole. This is a forum, not communist Russia.

Yes, it's a forum. But if you think that the high-vaunted idea of free speech actually flies here, you're in for a suprise. And you accepted the rules when you joined. Break them at your own leisure, but don't come crying when you get banned.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Jack Morris

The first week we were given an excuse. Yesterday I (like many others) sat eagerly awaiting the update. Am I missing something?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=848

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Let me guess: you're playing almost exclusively online and are a big fan of dogfight servers?

Some of us don't share your preferences. Some of us prefer immersive offline campaigns or coop online missions. Some of us are deeply disappointed with the state of the sim almost 12 months after release. I'm happy for everyone enjoying CloD, but I'd appreciate when in return there was some understanding that there are indeed reasonable complaints.

that is indeed a very important distinction, and i fully agree

the "online air quake slog fest" is the only working element that is available right now in CoD, and even then only for people with higher-end pc's (or you need to dial everything down so much it looks significantly worse then 1946)

midrange pc folks have lots of problems that make the sim much less functional (small stutters and microfreezes for ex, even if much better then 5 months ago, its still a big problem).

and 12 months after release there is no excuse for them not having fixed coop functions. just as an example re coop's: we should be able to run a coop mission with several players against AI and have new people able to join while the mission is already in play (the host should then have control over who can join, and what red/blue team they can join, and allow people who have "died" to re-enter the game and then join a multi crewed plane on the side they were flying for for ex )

the long promised dynamic campaign engine also needs to be available (for online and offline), and tools provided for the community to improve on it

to instead give us a few pictures of new planes they are working on for BoM, and no patches at all to address some of the other omitted elements is pretty bad. even if the gfx engine fix is the most important as we all agree ( and will be released in the next patch), the other missing features could/should have been worked on in the meantime

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Heinz Laube

all the discussion is useless, coz if the next patch comes out, the patchthread will be go over 40 pages, how awesome the patch and 1C are...

I bet it will be 60+ pages of complains "Why the patch includes only a reworked graphics engine that looks the same and does not fix any bugs except for the launcher crash?!!!" because many people would fail to read or understand the OP's 1st post.

[Peaveywolf]

I couldn't give a rats a$$e really. I have plenty more stuff to do than wait for a CloD patch. IL 2 with DBW is rather cool atm

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Considering some of Luthier's and BlackSix's posts, I'm quite sure that the devs are just as annoyed with the community as some in the community are with them..

other then the "forced release disaster" of the unfinished product last year (and i prefer that scenario to the whole project being cancelled, yet many new visitors here dont seem to understand those were the only 2 choices available at that time), the main mistake luthiers group has made is to believe that giving BoM update information is of any interest to most people who visit this forum (most are preoccupied with finding fixes and solutions, and want to hear about things being fixed in the broken game they currently have, giving those people information of the next product they are working on is obviously not a good idea)

giving news on features being added to BoB/CoD is good, like control of some ground vehicles and AA guns we had recently (because 80% of the work on those had already been done in previous years), and we hope to hear about many more elements that are currently either not present, not included, or not working (lack of dynamic campaign engine, coop problems etc)

i think luthier 'n Co understand this by now, hence they stopped giving BoM focused friday updates, i can only hope the release of the long awaited gfx patch is just around the corner, and that within a few days or weeks they release the "full version" with the included game fixes that are badly needed (ai behavior issues, some plane damage models, etc). failing this, the BoM release will get little traction in the west. however vocal and unreasonable some of the complainers are here (other then a few who just come here to complain no matter what, and have made it their sole purpose in life), the fanatic flight simmers that want to see this project succeed are the trend setters for the more moderate gaming enthusiasts that follow in their wake, and having these prolonged negative reports will directly hurt sales and this in itself can directly threaten the long term survival of the project (in which case we all loose, the simmers, the whiners, and luthier and Co)

[drewpee]

A patch/mod can be as simple as changing a spelling mistake on a title screen so don't tell me there is no such thing as a simple patch.