The Crystal Ball

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Oh the irony

Really, perhaps you'd like to explain, if indeed you can? Do a poll, who as spoke more BS on this forums, my goodself or Luthier/ Oleg combo. The results would be interesting.

[Sven]

It is absolutely necessary for Luthier's team to work on the sequel and sell it as well. If they follow the previous ways, Cliffs of Dover can just be merged with the new title and ultimately come together in something like 1946.

This way the engine keeps getting updated and thus every step ahead in the new title performance wise is a step ahead in Cliffs of Dover. That's the way I see it. Luthier can't keep working on the series if there's no income. Is your purchase of Cliffs then in vain? No of course not, I am enjoying Cliffs of Dover right now and the money I spend on this will aid the continue of the series and Cliffs of Dover.

I agree with Tree in a way that things supposedly fixed in previous patches, but aren't, still need attention before the next release of the series.

But things like 'I won't buy another game from Maddox Games before Cliffs of Dover is fully fixed' is unreasonable and you're only helping yourself by destroying this already small market of flight sims. Rather you should invest in this series, if you truly like flying a WW2 simulator.

[Kupsised]

Originally Posted by addman

As stated by Luthier, CloD will be supported UNTIL the release of the new game so let's hope it's not released any time soon. Wow, never thought I'd say that about an upcoming MG installment.

Or it just means that the new game will just be an expansion (as well as a standalone), as with all previous Il2 sequels, and thus it and any patches or improvements made for it will also improve CloD. I don't mean to be harsh to anyone at all, but I think everyone is seriously overthinking what Luthier said. He probably said what he did so that everyone could see that they're still thinking about the future of the series since there's no reason for him to say 'by the way, soon we're not going to care about this game' as that would seriously harm sales. Even if that were the case if he has any business sense, which I'm almost certain he does else he wouldn't be managing the project, there's no reason for him to say it so he wouldn't as long as he wants to make money.

EDIT: Sven pretty much beat me to it

[StG2_Winni]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Why do you come to these forums? Do you think you're helping?

Maybe, because he paid for this game? Could that be a reason for you?

I for myself appreciate Tree's statements. They're open, honest and to the point. And I cannot say this about your post, because you're just flaming....

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by Sven

But things like 'I won't buy another game from Maddox Games before Cliffs of Dover is fully fixed' is unreasonable and you're only helping yourself by destroying this already small market of flight sims.

It is unreasonable to expect a games developer to fix a broken product before I buy a new iteration of it? You got to be kidding me. Seriously.

[Sven]

Well then it's easily solved by not buying again from Maddox Games, then you ( 100 % guaranteed ) will never see any updates, ever again, for Cliffs of Dover because the team will go bankrupt.

As long as they can live on the money they made off Cliff's, they can support this game. When the money runs out, they can't. It's simple. That's why they're working on a sequel, they are flight sim enthusiast as well and I'm convinced they would love to see everything fixed.

If you would care to say something more about your reasoning then just 'Seriously' and 'You got to be kidding me' then perhaps we can understand each other better?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ParaB

It is unreasonable to expect a games developer to fix a broken product before I buy a new iteration of it? You got to be kidding me. Seriously.

Yes, it is, because this a principle phrase, despite us all knowing that in this special case, once the sequel comes out both games will be merged and "improved" in the course of it.
It is as if there are only noobs posting on these forums who started playing Il2 only yesterday.

[StG2_Winni]

Originally Posted by Sven

It is absolutely necessary for Luthier's team to work on the sequel and sell it as well. If they follow the previous ways, Cliffs of Dover can just be merged with the new title and ultimately come together in something like 1946.

This way the engine keeps getting updated and thus every step ahead in the new title performance wise is a step ahead in Cliffs of Dover. That's the way I see it. Luthier can't keep working on the series if there's no income. Is your purchase of Cliffs then in vain? No of course not, I am enjoying Cliffs of Dover right now and the money I spend on this will aid the continue of the series and Cliffs of Dover.

I agree with Tree in a way that things supposedly fixed in previous patches, but aren't, still need attention before the next release of the series.

But things like 'I won't buy another game from Maddox Games before Cliffs of Dover is fully fixed' is unreasonable and you're only helping yourself by destroying this already small market of flight sims. Rather you should invest in this series, if you truly like flying a WW2 simulator.

I agree with you, Sven!!! That's factual and convincing and let the more pessimistic people (even myself) think about it

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Originally Posted by ParaB

It is unreasonable to expect a games developer to fix a broken product before I buy a new iteration of it? You got to be kidding me. Seriously.

Well said .

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Oh the irony

LOL! I was thinking the same when I read that!