IL2 and Sound Modding

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

Originally Posted by Billfish

Rediculous......no company EVER gives up the rights to any product they develop, ever. Nor should they, it's their work the end. So why does this group from the hack community keep posting as though trying to get Maddox Games to give up their rights to their own product?

In the end Maddox Games will not, as they should not.....and the hackers will continue to utilize, alter and distribute Ubisoft/1C/Maddox Games product without consent....and all the hammering at it will not change Maddox Games mind (as it's like some child asking 100x in an hour for a cookie they've been told they can't have).......In this case Maddox Games has given their answer in simply not responding....

No............So give it up, the activities of the hackers will not be legitimate till they make their own "original" product, not alter Maddox Games.

hacking/modding of games (dependant on the posters view though) did give more then a few people an entrance into the game industry. so I'm agreeing with you there, Billfish. Just too bad it had to be IL2. After the release of SOW I could understand it, but not now.

[mmitch10]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

There is no breach of copyright as both parties already hold a legitimate copy of the file in question.

Nah, fair use only applies in certain specific circumstances, that don't apply here (study, literary criticism etc.), and owning a disk with the code on it, even when legitimately purchased, does not mean you own the copyright in the code. If I buy a film on DVD it doesn't mean I own the copyright in the film. It means I own a disk with the film on it. Same with software.

If the hack uses portions of the developer's code then chances are it infringes copyright, unlkess it uses insignificant parts of the code.

[SlipBall]

Nobody is permitted to open locked code, be sure

[fly_zo]

he, he ..... Ubi is sooo boring lately that all hardcore flammers moved in here .... great, the more the merrier ... One thing though Evgeny is a great guy so your protection from Ubi moderators wont work here .

and in all this time you didn't manage to find single new argument ....

as i said first level of Invaders all over again .... boring

[ElAurens]

Zo, neither you, nor any member of the hacker diaspora, have ever posted one legitimate argument for hacking the sim. Not one.

You and your kind are on shaky legal ground, and absolutely have no moral underpinnings for what you are doing.

You are wrong plain and simple. We don't need any other "argument" than that.

And what protection would I ever need from UBI moderators?

[robtek]

@ElAurens

i´ll drink to that!!

robtek

[sparty72]

So far in this long thread i've seen lots of name calling, b*ichin, anger even h*te ( its how it seems)..there have been good arguments..poor arguments, attempts at adult discussion and plain old childishness..its like watchin a cheap American soap opera with the pouting and stares of intimidation and stamping of feet! ( sounds like my ex ) anyhow....enough already the bottles open and the genie is out... NO amount of name calling and threats is gonna change that, no threats of ( I'm gonna get ya for this) makes a slight bit of difference ( except to make me laff),theres an old welsh saying " it's easy to be brave behind castle walls" if people feel there is a legal recourse to this issue get on with it already!!..i have a lot of respect for a lot of posters on both sides...but to be honest..some of you are getting tiresome with the same answers. I'd like to think that some of you reading this will think on and p'haps a change will occur in how this is tackled.. but i think not.. its like watchin a yappie little dog giving itself a sore throat cus it dont like the postman.. so.. to end my rant.... Evgeny ..Kudos m8!..Oleg ..thanks for the hard work..Billfish..thanks for the inteligent arguments...Flyzo..great work m8..holdin back the wolves.........

Best Regards

Sparty

[123-Wulf-123]

You Hackers and your apologists are funny guys, you try to make all these statements like Sparty here attempting to place himself as a moderate(ill disguised) and thus somehow claim the moral ground.

The problem you have, is that you have no moral grounds for any of your statements.

Most right thinking, law abiding, decent people will never put any credence on a word you say, nor take you seriously.

Every word you utter will always be scrutinised with the background thought that you are a hacker and thus not to be trusted.

So make as many blustering statements as you all like, try to ridicule non-hackers, try to convince yourselves(and fail), that you have done nothing wrong, try to conveniently forget who is in the wrong as much as you like, try to insinuate that the majority of the legal community is somehow wrong, YOU IS STILL WRONG ...be sure.




"a thief will always find another thief to admire him................" with apologies to FT.

[sparty72]

Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123

You Hackers are funny guys, you try to make all these statements like Sparty here attempting to place himself as a moderate(ill disguised) and thus somehow claim the moral ground.

moral ground..... who decides the high ground?..you?..get real

The problem you have, is that you have no moral grounds for any of your statements.

I don't need YOUR moral grounds to make a statement.. you just dont like that i had the
temerity to speak!

Most right thinking, law abiding, decent people will never put any credence on a word you say, nor take you seriously.

Law abiding!.... is that when you dont mug or murder or b an arsonist!..how about drink
drive etc..... to me those are laws to abide by

Every word you utter will always be scrutinised with the background thought that you are a hacker and thus not to be trusted.

You get me wrong.............I dont hack..i DONT KNOW HOW to hack..my statement if
properly scrutinized is saying ( in plain English).... what a bunch of mard arse winning
children there are here B*tchin about a game (thast on both sides)..and yes its a game
installed on your home pc/laptop to switch on and off as you feel fit....seems to me all
you people want is a fight..all i tried to do is put it in a civil way..call me a hacker ( again
i dont know how)... call me what you like ....just words... words...words.... get the drift
as for trusting me..... ha haha...trust me..dont trust me...get the idea.. i stand by what
people REALLY know of me..of which you know so little and dont call me a hacker..its
so sooo SOOOOOOOOOOO tiresome


So make as many blustering statements as you all like, try to ridicule non-hackers, try to convince yourselves(and fail), that you have done nothing wrong, try to conveniently forget who is in the wrong as much as you like, try to insinuate that the majority of the legal community is somehow wrong, YOU IS STILL WRONG ...be sure.

Bluster..wheres the bluster..how many pages of tripe n hot air is this thread? how many posts are from me?.. again there's no ridicule.. just how it looks to 99% of the people NOT posting in this thread... btw..what exactly is it iv'e forgotten..who did i state is in the wrong?.... so I am wrong ..wrong wrong...seems like thats the Mantra these days.. ( I'm right..your'e wrong..nah nah naah NAH NAH nahhhhhhhhhhh)..get over yourself ya big Jessie......


"a thief will always find another thief to admire him................" with apologies to your FT.

and your qoute ...lmao..good find that..christmas cracker or corn flake packet...you should read mine at the zoo?.. infact i'l save you the trouble..ahem "clears throat"

" You are entitled to your opinion, I have listened patiently, Now pi$$ off and bore somebody else!

Best Rega ..nah who cares

Sparty

[sparty72]

oooh I just thought 123-Wulf-123..if you know me as a hacker from 2 posts..you must have seen me posting at the unmentionable site eh!... how you enjoying them?!..like the new work?!