The Blue Sun Mod

[IceShade]

Does the melee skill actually prevent you from being hit as well?

Anytime I go into melee with a low life bandit or whatever, they manage to get a hit on me. And when they hit me (which is all the time), I'm stunned for a bit. By the time I have recovered, they've already swung again.

It's even worse; I once attacked a heavily injured guy. Easy prey, I thought. He was immobilized, was heavily injured, and didn't look my way. I sprinted over to him, kicked him, but before I managed to get my kick in he immediately switched to the "standing" animation, and smacked me in the face.

What.

[Flakt]

Originally Posted by IceShade

Does the melee skill actually prevent you from being hit as well?

Anytime I go into melee with a low life bandit or whatever, they manage to get a hit on me. And when they hit me (which is all the time), I'm stunned for a bit. By the time I have recovered, they've already swung again.

It's even worse; I once attacked a heavily injured guy. Easy prey, I thought. He was immobilized, was heavily injured, and didn't look my way. I sprinted over to him, kicked him, but before I managed to get my kick in he immediately switched to the "standing" animation, and smacked me in the face.

What.

it comes down to whoever can click strike the fastest if you're not skilled.

[Vader]

i play the new missions. first of: great humor and many thanks for so many fixed dialogs and more options in dialogs great R@S .i am now in the mids of the tang missions and i have to pew pew the training ground...
i opted for killing all, why stop when your around^^
after a very interesting battle, in which every baddie ended up ling face down^^ i still wont get the log entry that i killed all in kansas...

i am a bit disturbed. enlightment is much apreciated^^

Vader

[Kyle]

I spent a couple of hours playing/restarting the same scenario over and over again to try and catch exactly what was going on in the game during a complex situation. Before I go through all of the trouble of writing it up in a post here, I need a question answered regarding uniform-usage that may supply the answer that I was searching for...

As stated above, after taking over Puerto Viejo after I returned to Sagrada to meet with Paco. The area has Guardia posted everywhere, but instead of immediately attacking me as in a previous build of the mod, they stayed neutral.

That is, until I turned Luna in. 95% of the time, within several seconds of handing Luna over to Paco, the Guardia at the station opens up on Luna, then me.

5% of the time this Guardia did NOT do the above, but I'll save those details till after I get an answer to the following:

WHY do the Guardia switch from neutrals to enemies? Is it because...
(1) ...word finally reached Sagrada about my squad's behavior in Puerto Viejo, and they then know that I'm an enemy?
(2) ...when one clicks to talk to Paco, the Player's avatar is forced to stand right next to the Guardia for the duration of the dialog, giving the Guardia time to figure out that I'm wearing a disguise, that my police officer uniform is illegitimate?
(3) ...the Guardia work for another crime lord, who has secret orders to kill Luna should he be secured, and to then kill those who caught him?
(4) ...or a combination of the above?

PLEASE NOTE: If the reason why the Guardia attack is due to a yet to be discovered plot point, please do not spoil it here. Just say that I'll find out later why they behaved the way they did, and I'll be satisfied.

Uniforms, and how they do/do not work still mystifies me. Any light on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[Vader]

I think that most uniforms are useless and i use them for taste issues rather than showing flag for the different organizations... as soon as i can get a hold of a palinero uniform my whole sqaud waires them and i wasn´t attacked due to my clothes... i rule this matter directly out. i think that you hurt or killed officials in another city and to wair police uniform doesnt help that fact... your still an enemy of the state. it is only a quest that your playing and your not really an official policeman when wairing the uniform... so enemystatus stayes the same. if you want to change that, buy yourself off the hook by big bob or if your further enough in the big storyline by calderon for 50 grands...

have fun^^

[Kyle]

Vader,

Thanks for your input. So uniforms don't work as disguises? Too bad.

So, something is causing the Guardia to FINALLY attack me, but what, exactly? Again, they leave my squad alone till Luna is turned over to Paco, then they (usually) first try to kill him, then my squad.

Weird!

[Vader]

to tell you the truth, i dont play this quest the same way as you did. to reasons for this:
first, luna is a pitty sucker who doesnt deserve going to prison. he hasent done it. the lady is pure sin. also if you succed in turning in luna to the officials and then go back to that dame you will get a nasty withdrawl of your money from her. at least then you will know what kind of character she is... but then she is gone^^

second, when you let luna have his little talk, also with your littler funnie remarks^^, then you will gain quite the opposite as of first metioned outcome. highly recomended.
one could speculate that as such a bad cop you wont get a nother contract from paco. but after a sorry shrug from him he offers you other quests....


all in all i wanst attaced at all during this quest, and i mostly savegame before starting a quest so that i see instantly all outcommings and the choose the better^^ sly me^^


good luck and as the great R@S says save often^^

[Xiola]

I think I may have found a bug.

In the mission 'Assasins Creed' that you get from the Chinese guy. He offers you many ways to kill a guy. I chose 'Kill them all' cos I wanted to get their weapons.

I went there and tried a few times, but it was very hard, each time some guys spawned in behind me after a while in the fight, I kept losing.

I tried it again a different way with 2 chars sniping from the cliff and my other 4 lined up a little beind the path. I managed to kill them all. this time no guys spawned in behind me, but I was kind of glad!

BUT, Tang keeps telling me to go and finish the mission, everyone is dead, I even went back and killed the poison woman in case it mattered, but it didnt.

Now the quest will not finish, but everyone at the training camp is dead. My journal says (and always said) 'Got to Kansas city and kill everyone there', but I have no Kansas City on my map, I gathered this was a mistake and it meant the training ground (the 'target' is there after all).

I mentioned the guys spawning in before, because I am wondering if they were SUPPOSED to arrive, but never did, and this is what is causing the mission not to finish?

Does anyone have any suggestions other than trying the mission again>?

Thanks

[Vader]

first : the kansas city is in my opinion a joke about possibly foulout (the game?). you were at the right map. i also choose to do it the hard way. if done correctly it wasnt that hard. i used many grenades and two guys in the ruined houses near the spwan point as trojan horses in the spwaning troops back. also there is a small sandbag wall near the street down to the training yard. there i positioned my char (sniper) to shot incoming from the grounds and facing via spawn point my man guy for this mission, a trooper with an m16 that draw the fire to him. he was heavily packed with a vest and he killed the most.

it was all in all a true beauty of a victory.



but what can i say?: tang still wants someone killed. and yeah, i eaven killed sarah pallino (hur hur hur) well with a name like that i dont need much excuses to vent her skull eaven further^^. but to no avail, tang is unforgiving as before, eaven so there is no one left i should kill some more...

clearly a bug...
i am now in the midst to get again to that point manly due to my stupidity, cause i cant get back to the point to choose another option for this mission. maybe the poison or the snipng will get me an end for this mission.... stay tuned^^

[Kyle]

Vader,

I never realized that The Lady in Red (that color is always a sure sign of Trouble, isn't it?) stole from me when I went back to inform her of Luna being turned over to Paco. No wonder she runs away after she thanks me!

When I've played this mission in the past, I'll work to meet Paco's wishes till he asks me to plant the drugs on that bandit, which I never do, but I've never played the game long enough to see what happens afterward. There's always a new update released right after I reach that point.

One reason why I might be confused as to what's happening with the Guardia's attack on Luna and then me, is that in the past, I turned Luna over BEFORE I took over any cities.

So, is it safe for me to say that the reason why the Guardia attack Luna, and then me, is because they are working for The Lady in Red, or...? I'm still trying to figure out why they're so determined to kill Luna (and why would The Lady in Red kill me when I just did her a huge favor?).

Time to test a little before bed, as I just cleared the Army Base.