UFO's and extra-terrestrial life

[CharveL]

Lixma, kudos to you for applying critical reasoning and logic to this subject. It really should be taught in schools from an early age.

Also props to Oldschool, Luisv, Rattlehead and Dutch for entering the debate with an open mind and calm demeanor. Too often, otherwise good natured debates of this sort get heated when one's long-held beliefs are challenged and I think that's a measure of intelligence, whatever any of us gets out of this by the time it gets locked down.

[Lixma]

I'm part of the Illuminati's disinformation bureau.

It's a living.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Lixma

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Although it is funny. You've just watched a man claim he saw alien spaceships and you think i'm reaching!

Lol, I guess you have a point there.

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by Lixma

I'm part of the Illuminati's disinformation bureau.

It's a living.

Lucky you. I'm still at initiate status and not even allowed to stand behind the curtain or perform level 2 anal probes.

[ATAG_Dutch]

I remember an occasion when I was riding a very slow motorcycle down a very dark and winding country 'A' road. (It was the A57- Snake Pass between Sheffield and Glossop for the Brits here). I was pretty tired at the time.

I came around a corner and had to slam on the brakes because a deer had run across the road in front of me.

It shook me up a bit because the deer instantly disappeared. For the rest of the journey I was seeing deer in every reflection from the walls and bushes.

Trouble is, there aren't any deer in that area to my knowledge, so I put it down to tiredness, imagination and the lonely feeling of being on my own on a dark and winding country road.

No doubt other people would have seen something that proved that aliens were already amongst us.

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I remember an occasion when I was riding a very slow motorcycle down a very dark and winding country 'A' road. (It was the A57- Snake Pass between Sheffield and Glossop for the Brits here). I was pretty tired at the time.

I came around a corner and had to slam on the brakes because a deer had run across the road in front of me.

It shook me up a bit because the deer instantly disappeared. For the rest of the journey I was seeing deer in every reflection from the walls and bushes.

Trouble is, there aren't any deer in that area to my knowledge, so I put it down to tiredness, imagination and the lonely feeling of being on my own on a dark and winding country road.

No doubt other people would have seen something that proved that aliens were already amongst us.

I think it would be safe to say that it really was an alien deer.

You know, since they are generally not around those parts.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by CharveL

I think it would be safe to say that it really was an alien deer.

You know, since they are generally not around those parts.

Ahhh, thanks. Yep that would explain it perfectly, cheers.

Do you know where I can find Bob Lazar's e-mail address? Thanks.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Lixma

Just a quick follow up. The Wiki page on Foo Fighters has an interesting reference at the bottom. It's mentions a study by the United States Navy Bureau of Medicine called Project X-148-AV-4-3.



The head of the study, Dr. Edgar Vinacke leaves us this interesting quote...



(my emphasis).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

Am I suggesting that vertigo is therefore the cause of all these sightings? No. And to even suggest the possibility that Gordo Cooper of all people may have suffered from vertigo is no doubt considered by some to be a slight upon his name.

Nevertheless, it demonstrates that pilots (trained observers or otherwise) are every bit as susceptible to disorientation as the rest of us mortals. And given our knowledge of these effects it really should temper our desire to cry ET when other, more mundane (and much more serious) factors are at play.

Lixma since nothing is real to you I was wondering what your beliefs are when it comes to supernatural beings like say god or the jesus of christianity. Do you think god exists? If so why and what evidence do you have to support your claim??
Do you think jesus was real? If so what evidence or proof do you have to support that?
If you dont take actual eyewitness testimony at face value than certainly you must be an atheist because there is no proof of god or jesus..(mohammed was real but just another goat herder who liked little girls)

[unreasonable]

O-oh.

Initiate countdown to locking procedure, 10, 9, 8...

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

Lixma since nothing is real to you I was wondering what your beliefs are when it comes to supernatural beings like say god or the jesus of christianity.

"Nothing is real to me?". I don't in all honesty know how you arrived there. But anyway....

Do you think god exists? If so why and what evidence do you have to support your claim??

I hold no belief either way in the existence of a god. There might be one, there might not. As to the peculiar varieties of god - Zeus, Yaweh, Odin, Xenu...these gods I do not believe exist.

Amongst other things I see them as culturally specific projections; just as a pack of wolves would endow their god with a perfect nose, so too our own people endow their gods with perfect reflections of their own favoured attributes.

Do you think jesus was real?

I've no idea whether he was or not. I don't believe he was in any way divine, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that there indeed was a real flesh and blood man called Jesus who caused a bit of a stir way back when.

Give it another 2000 years and you will be amazed at who people believe is divine. Probably L. Ron Hubbard or Lady Gaga.