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Old 12-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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I'm only getting it if I can blow up the stinking sheep that cover the freezing cold hell hole.

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Old 12-07-2008, 06:30 AM
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In my opinion, the invaders.
Ohhh! Then you mean the British Empire and their greed for colonies which brought death and massacres during a couple of centurys. No worries mate, you wont have to fly the bad guys planes, only Skyhawks, Mirage and Etendarts from the "good ones"

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Old 12-07-2008, 06:37 AM
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I'm only getting it if I can blow up the stinking sheep that cover the freezing cold hell hole.

Alpha can i be your wingman on that one? "Baa Baa Bandits 4 oclock!"

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Old 12-07-2008, 11:22 AM
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Ohhh! Then you mean the British Empire and their greed for colonies which brought death and massacres during a couple of centurys. No worries mate, you wont have to fly the bad guys planes, only Skyhawks, Mirage and Etendarts from the "good ones"
No Country can look back at a guilt free history, just because the British Empire was large for a couple of hundred years does not make them any more evil than anyone else. This opinion of yours is insulting and misguided.
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:32 PM
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Meusli, i was only answering to a silly comment with a sarcastic reply... never intended to be insulting, and even if History shows a particular Empire doing what any Empire does, it doesn't mean that you can divide countries between Evil and Good as this user Igo Kyu (who im sure must be quite young) does in his comment with such a lack of knowledge IMO.

Sorry if it sounded insulting to you, it was not my intention...

Political issues should not be allowed on these forums, they bring nothing useful and often end with people trash talking to each other; as it will probably happen with this subject if we don't drop it here.

The simulator this group is making looks really nice.

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Old 12-07-2008, 02:56 PM
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Did someone miss history class? South America was colonized by the lily white Spain and Portugal.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:21 PM
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it doesn't mean that you can divide countries between Evil and Good as this user Igo Kyu (who im sure must be quite young) does in his comment with such a lack of knowledge IMO.
I'm a young 54.

I didn't say any country is evil, I said that (it is my opinion that...) the leaders of the invading country on this occasion were wrong to do that, and that therefore their servicemen were fighting on the side that was in the wrong. The servicemen were perhaps unaware of that, apparently some of the ground troups expected to be received as liberators, and were surprised to be greeted as oppressors. We, however, with the benefit of hindsight, can form opinions as to who was right and who was wrong. In my opinion that was the invaders. I wouldn't want to play a game fighting for the side that in my view was in the wrong. I know there are plenty of people who don't mind fighting on the wrong side of a conflict, I don't have a problem with them doing that if they want to, but I personally do not want to do that.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:14 PM
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Did someone miss history class? South America was colonized by the lily white Spain and Portugal.
Exactly, so if it was colonized by Spain and Portugal; what is an English colony doing near the shores of Argentina? Your comment, by the way, has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

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I'm a young 54.

I didn't say any country is evil, I said that (it is my opinion that...) the leaders of the invading country on this occasion were wrong to do that, and that therefore their servicemen were fighting on the side that was in the wrong. The servicemen were perhaps unaware of that, apparently some of the ground troups expected to be received as liberators, and were surprised to be greeted as oppressors. We, however, with the benefit of hindsight, can form opinions as to who was right and who was wrong. In my opinion that was the invaders. I wouldn't want to play a game fighting for the side that in my view was in the wrong. I know there are plenty of people who don't mind fighting on the wrong side of a conflict, I don't have a problem with them doing that if they want to, but I personally do not want to do that.
With 54, true...your are young at heart

Well, its your opinion... i only have to check a world atlas and by a quick glance to Malvinas Islands geographical position its very easy to realize who are the invaders and who are not

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Old 12-07-2008, 11:44 PM
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Exactly, so if it was colonized by Spain and Portugal; what is an English colony doing near the shores of Argentina?
Near? 400 miles is a long way, especially across the Atlantic. Twice that range would make England part of Spain, they tried, they failed.

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i only have to check a world atlas and by a quick glance to Malvinas Islands geographical position its very easy to realize who are the invaders and who are not
Geography is not that important or Japan (and thus Korea) would be owned by China, Cuba and thus all of the Caribbean by the USA, Madagascar by Mozambiqe, Greenland by Iceland (or vice versa?).
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:40 AM
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I had written a long reply; but then i found out that theres no sense to be dragged by a user who doesnt even know distances between Argentina territorial coasts and Islas Malvinas (at least check a map before posting if you want to be taken seriously)... not to mention childish comments as dividing goberments/countries between the bad ones and the good ones like you can see in any Hollywood class C movie.

This is a forum related to flight simulation, any political frustration or nationalism should be left aside.

I wish the developers of this SIM good luck and even though i don´t like Jets after Corea, i might give it a try sinking HMS's or shooting down MirageIII with a Sea Harrier.

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