An appeal to *all servers*

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Hello everyone,

I have a problem: I can fly a dozen aircraft reasonably well. But all of them are pre-1942 models. To make matters worse, I have little or no interest in practicing on later aircraft.

After 1941-1942 increased power to weight ratios and speeds changed the way aircraft interact with the air and dogfights develop. More importantly, the widespread use of aircraft cannons and the replacement of earlier cannons with high-velocity, high rate-of-fire ones lead to much more abrupt kills.

I enjoy combat in which complex energy management and maneuvers matter - not just who can dive on a target and get enough bullets over it to indiscriminately blow it to pieces. I yearn for combat in which it take multiple runs to shoot down an enemy aircraft, and in which a pilot knows they are being beaten well before they are shot down - combat in which one can gauge and study their opponent.

So my question: Is it possible that any dedicated server could split their maps into two three year sets as an experiment?

1939-1941-1942

1943-1944-1945

I think that, if tried, this may be a popular way of splitting up environments.

Thank you,

-Avimimus

+1

I really "hate" late war planes..SpitIX-s and Doras...hopefuly well fight in early spits and 109s in SOW and in double and drei deckers in Rise Of Flight..nghh

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

I love late war scenario the most. The only thing there I can't stand is mk108 and everyone on blue team using it. Whenever I see this I go flying elswhere.

There are many servers featuring early war maps. And with limits on weapon loadouts. UK dedicated being one of them.

Me too...but I figure if I'm allowed my 4 impossibly fast firing Hispano Vs on the Tempest then they can have the MK108 as much as I don't like using the weapon because its not very precise.

But I like to fly a late war scenario and then jump in and have some fun with a Yak-1 against a 109E/F or vice versa. And yeah UK-Dedicated is the place as you and I both know

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

+1

I really "hate" late war planes..SpitIX-s and Doras...hopefuly well fight in early spits and 109s in SOW and in double and drei deckers in Rise Of Flight..nghh

You know i cannot recall having ever flown the Spit IX ... ever, not even once. I have flown the Dora maybe three times in however many years since it came out.

I sometimes wonder if the late war birds are really as popular as it appears or whether online late war uber plane fans are just louder on the forums.

[DKoor]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Hello everyone,

I have a problem: I can fly a dozen aircraft reasonably well. But all of them are pre-1942 models. To make matters worse, I have little or no interest in practicing on later aircraft.

After 1941-1942 increased power to weight ratios and speeds changed the way aircraft interact with the air and dogfights develop. More importantly, the widespread use of aircraft cannons and the replacement of earlier cannons with high-velocity, high rate-of-fire ones lead to much more abrupt kills.

I enjoy combat in which complex energy management and maneuvers matter - not just who can dive on a target and get enough bullets over it to indiscriminately blow it to pieces. I yearn for combat in which it take multiple runs to shoot down an enemy aircraft, and in which a pilot knows they are being beaten well before they are shot down - combat in which one can gauge and study their opponent.

So my question: Is it possible that any dedicated server could split their maps into two three year sets as an experiment?

1939-1941-1942

1943-1944-1945

I think that, if tried, this may be a popular way of splitting up environments.

Thank you,

-Avimimus

It's been tried for many times on several servers (really known ones). Conclusion was that the late war (P-47, Tempest, FW-190A6+/D, P-51, Ki-84 etc.) is much more popular.

For me... I always liked early war actions.
I make no real difference between them (early - late airwar)... perhaps sometimes I'm in the mood for one and other times for other actions.

As some of the guys mentioned UK-dedicated was a fine place and one of the very few which actually featured a popular early war action.

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

You know i cannot recall having ever flown the Spit IX ... ever, not even once. I have flown the Dora maybe three times in however many years since it came out.

I sometimes wonder if the late war birds are really as popular as it appears or whether online late war uber plane fans are just louder on the forums.

Well, the only guys I know to prefer late war to early and mid are all either fanatics flying V-VS only or arcade jocks.

[DKoor]

Was that an insult ?

[Erkki]

Depends on who reads it.

[Thunderbolt56]

It's a known fact (in IL2) that the most evenly matched planesets are derived from the 1942-43 timeframe. In the early-war scenarios, the cannon-armed Emils are the the thoroughbreds. In late-war scenarios, the Allies have a large stable of aircraft able to compete effectively with the limited stable of Axis hotrods thus giving the impression that the Allies had a distinct advantage. In duelist roles both sides are competitive, but when you add in the mudmoving capabilities it's a serious mismatch. The fact of the matter is the Axis aircraft are easily capable of competing with and occasionally out-performing the Allied aircraft but they usually need to be in a Dora or possibly a K4 to do it and the Allies need to have limited loadout options. Accordingly, you have the typical late-war matchups of P-47D/Spit IX/Tempest/Mustang/Yak-3/P-38L versus the Dora/A9/K4 that give wide variety and incredible ground-attack ability to the the Allies and the Axis is left with slightly updated models of the same aircraft they've been flying for a few years already.

When people can have the complete ability to dictate the rules of engagement such as is more likely in late-war aircraft, they're more likely to fly them.

I disagree with that thought process, but obviously there are many who don't.

[mondo]

I wish there were more servers like Zeke vs Wildcat with 1942ish Pacific scenarios as they are extremely fun.