Anyone know any sounds mods for IL2?

[123-Wulf-123]

Be interesting to see how long this is let run on this "official forum" ...I'm pretty sure by now that, to be honest, Oleg doesn't give a rats ass about the mods, there is no more money to made out of 46 for the most part at this stage.

Frankly while I really objected to the mods, if Oleg doesn't care(and its obvious by now he doesn't) then why should anyone else? illegal or not

[LEXX]

How many are now buying FB because of modding? We don't know, but the number is nonzero, and from the forum poastings I've seen may be non-trivial, but I'd hate to make a judgement on a thing like that, until all the facts are in. Whatever. Every FB sold helps make a better BoB And Beyond.

Three types basically...

(1) Previous players who abandoned the sim because of loss of interest, and now are willing to try it again with mods this time.

(2) Old Timer ancient modders from the Sims of Old, the Sims of Reknown, who are now thinking of taking up the far more modern FB to mod.

(3?) I think I saw one poaster at simhq claim that he/she had never had FB, but was going to try it now that its moddable.

[123-Wulf-123]

I suppose really at this stage its all good

Although I do not use mods.

[123-Wulf-123]

Yet.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Actually the sounds are the weakest part of the mods by far.

By and large they are no better than Oleg's original synthesized sounds, just different from them.

That is unless you feel a Pratt and Whitney Twin Wasp or Wright Cyclone sounds like a Cessna 150, and really poorly looped tracks are you thing.

A Pratt and Whitney R-2800 sounds different depending on the aircraft it is installed on.

For example, in the case of the P-47, the exhaust is routed through a complicated series of exhaust tubes to that huge turbocharger in the belly, and that acts to smooth out the pulses of the exhaust and muffle them. The P-47 was a very quiet plane compared to most WWII fighters. Maybe quieter than a Cessna... (don't base you opinion by the way, on the sounds you here from vintage Warbird '47's. Many of them are running non-original Pratt and Whitney's from transport aircraft, and don't even have the turbocharger hooked up)

On the other hand, the Corsair had a three stage supercharger, and the exhaust came right out the stacks. It is a noisy bugger. I know, I've heard one start up and run more than a few times.

Neither the so-called sound mod, or the original IL-2 sounds take that into consideration.

[ElAurens]

I'm speaking mostly of the R-1830 in the P36. The R-2600 in the B25 is also far from correct. I've actually flown in one of those. I'm no n00bie to real aircraft, and neither are most of my BlitzPig squadmates, and to a man they all would revert to the original sounds if possible. While not correct they are not nearly as offensive as the amaturish attempt in the sound mod.

I know all about the turbo installations on the P47, P38, B17. I've heard them all fly. And a real Bf109, and real Spits, Hurricanes, P40s, P39s, P51s, B17s, a Lancaster, F4Fs, FM2s, F6Fs, F4Us, DC3s, etc... Shall I go on?

Nothing improves if constructive criticism is ignored, or worse, dismissed out of hand do to pride, arrogance, or lack of knowledge.

And don't start with that "well if you think they are wrong then do it better yourself" tripe. I don't claim to be a recording engineer, but I do know what many real warbirds sound like, and they don't sound like the sound mod, which was presented to us as an amazing improvement. It's more like someone has seen too many Hollywood movies about WW2 and thinks that's the way they should sound.

[LEXX]

Alot of this may depend on whatever sound system players are using. Granted, Oleg did poast that his sounds (synth?) were best on very advanced, and expensive, computer gaming equipment that few if any of his customers would have. So, maybe the different sounds are....different. I can't tell myself, since I don't even have sound on my computer. I JAM stereo when I play The Sims. It helps me relax during the dogfight woof woof.

El, if what you poasted at the ubi.com is true, I can believe your claim that you don't have the the millions of dollars you said was required to make "realistic" sounds (when you were told to make your own sounds). Most here probably never saw your ubi poast, and it made sense to us at the time. Like you, the modders don't have that kind of money.

Many others are enjoying the new sounds, for whatever reason. Others not, for whatever reasons. They all now share an alternative in being able to choose what works best for them each instead of fighting over access to the Moscow Bureau. Perhaps, if you think they are wrong then do it better yourself. Pass a collection plate round the BlitzPiGG to raise the money if you don't have enough. I myself remain happily without sound, thank you. Although I do have a beeper speaker.

[ElAurens]

As it is impossible to record all the sounds necessary to do a proper sound mod, I just want a way to revert to the original sounds. That's all.

None of the tools offered at that other place work. And heaven save anyone who goes over there and asks for such a thing, cause they don't understand that someone might not like what they have done, and take it personally and get all hissy about it.

I remember when the driving force for this sim was the advancement of realism. I see now that was just so much BS. Folks just want warm fuzzy feelings and what they think is correct.

It's sad to see this title die.

[JG52Uther]

El you know you can fly the mod with the original sounds don't you?

[ElAurens]

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