Achievements

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by travelingoz

Remember in TL before the 1st expansion when there were no reserve slots and you were going for a high score? That really was a 'strategic' thing.

When you only have 1 type/race of units available at start of game, what strategy is required in choosing your troops???????????

I never played TL.

You actually have bears, snakes, and spiders. While I failed to achieve pure 'no-loss', I got much closer by using the snakes (which I would normally never use from the eggs)

Also, if I wasn't forced to use the Vikings, I'd have missed out on some interested strategies.

Jotons! Split Sooths or Split Maidens? Slingers (I didn't use them early on since it was too easy to lose, but I might do it again). Berserkers as an insane damage beast, Jarls as shock troops that rival even knights.

I admit it is a little 'rail roaded' early on but later on you have tons of options since the game flattens out.

[Fatt_Shade]

@travelingoz
I agree about achievements, now they only look pretty and when you finish game you can make screenshot and that`s it they have no other use. And some of them are totally retarded - Heartless you need to lose 10.000 units ,and i read somewhere summoned units count toward it. WTF ? For trapper medal, summoned units arent counted, so why would they count for this ???
Other then being useless, they are just something you do no matter the gameplay :
- deal 1million dmg, no problem you`ll do it eventually
- complete at least one item set, this depends on your luck with random items in game
- gather 75 items in whole game, also doable.
- defeat 250 enemy, i guess you have to win at least that may battle before end of game (i read that there is around 700 battles in whole game so 250 is no problem
- collect 250 chests also a joke
But there art some that you wouldnt even think off without some guidance :
- win 25 battles in a row without replenishing your army
- win 50 battles without spells/rage. WHY ???? And then on other hand deal 500.000 dmg with spells and upgrade all Valkyries to 5th lvl. This achievements are contradicting each other
- defeat spider in 15 turns / defeat Loki in 10 turns, hard for ppl going no-loss. But in the end no loss is only personal choice.
Etc, etc...
If game have skills upgradeable, and medals, and spells, and rage ksills, wtf did they implement useless achievements for ????

In TL, i could kite all the way to Demonis and back 2 or 3 quests after the tutorial.

How ? For freedom islands you had to defeat turtle, and for map from lucky James you had to defeat him (at least 12 lvl, since he was 15 and had big army), or buy it for 100K gold, also you must fight for it since it was impossible to gather that amount just running around (i think, not 100% sure). But after that yea, path to Demonis was open, and then again for Elven lands you had to free dwarf prince battle vs demon hero 18 lvl if i recall right.
And then came AP/CW and kiting aplenty Hero 1st lvl scouting Reha and gathering free quests for 4000-6000exp without fighting, and returning to Debir with 20 lvl and full dragon army ))

When you only have 1 type/race of units available at start of game, what strategy is required in choosing your troops???????????

I dont think players were so limited in start of TL, you start with access to Greenwort , Arlania, Verlon forest, and Marshan swamp and have available human , bunch of neutral some undead and alchemist(swamp) units so it was much better then WotN on start.

@ckdamascus

Back in Armored Princess, the most damage I could do in a single stack attack (not ball of lightning) was close to 34K.

I cant believe in this, are you sure ? i managed 436K dmg , it was almost end game but it was highest ever seen. Warrior with 2x+1 dmg items (whip +1 fire, dager +1poison) , girl power set +3 moral/100% crit to female, and around 4K fairies and gorgunas for blood mark x2dmg to enemy. It was whole battle preparing for that hit, but it was fun to watch

In the end after you remembered some things from TL, i`ll advertise mod HoMM3 Babies for TL, check it in that part of forum i promise fun with it

[Nirual]

I find it weird to go from ingame achievements/medals with small benefits to having both ingame medals and more mainstream achievements with no ingame benefit and little overlap between. I get achievements about beating the game at the highest difficulty and such, but many of the others seem arbitrary to me. Not to mention spoilery and kinda confusing (thanks for telling me Guilford is a bad guy and that I'm gonna fight Eric again later on).

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

@ckdamascus

I cant believe in this, are you sure ? i managed 436K dmg , it was almost end game but it was highest ever seen. Warrior with 2x+1 dmg items (whip +1 fire, dager +1poison) , girl power set +3 moral/100% crit to female, and around 4K fairies and gorgunas for blood mark x2dmg to enemy. It was whole battle preparing for that hit, but it was fun to watch

In the end after you remembered some things from TL, i`ll advertise mod HoMM3 Babies for TL, check it in that part of forum i promise fun with it

I think I stopped mid-way, used a Paladin instead (less leadership), never liked the Gorgunas. I don't think I considered stuff like Pygmy, just the straight +60 attack bonus (3X dmg) and whatever + dmg items I had. Definitely needed girl power for that build and close to 100% crit.

But, wow, that's impressive! I wonder how many you had?!?

[Fatt_Shade]

But, wow, that's impressive! I wonder how many you had?!?

I saw tread `highest crit` where some1 posted 300K crit with black knight + gorguna army. Blackies killing everything and in the end gorguna blood mark on some1, after which bk with 100+ attack did 300K crit.
So i planed 1 battle to see how high can i go, had 4000+ fairies , 3-6 dmg, +3 moral, and high attack from frenzy skill. After killing bunch of summoned plant stacks , i used blood mark and did that crit But all in all it`s not really functional, because you need to focus all killing on 1 stack, and fairy army is great in huge numbers (around end of game). On other hand they are interesting to play with no retaliation

[sethmage]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

@travelingoz
I agree about achievements, now they only look pretty and when you finish game you can make screenshot and that`s it they have no other use. And some of them are totally retarded - Heartless you need to lose 10.000 units ,and i read somewhere summoned units count toward it. WTF ?

I think this achiev is broken, I got it after the fight with the mage (right after spider fight) and the thing pops up, there is no way in hell I lost 10k units at that point, summons or otherwise.

Unless that counts as 10k HP all combine units lost, trolls and yountas or whatever they called, they have 700 plus of HP alone.

[travelingoz]

Originally Posted by sethmage

I think this achiev is broken, I got it after the fight with the mage (right after spider fight) and the thing pops up, there is no way in hell I lost 10k units at that point, summons or otherwise.

Unless that counts as 10k HP all combine units lost, trolls and yountas or whatever they called, they have 700 plus of HP alone.

I think it counts summoned units too.... i got it fairly early in the game playing no loss.......

[Fatt_Shade]

So heartless achievement is broken, surprise surprise. I would post it in bugs tread, if there isnt already like 70 pages of broken things in there.
Guess i`ll just go play TL-HoMM3 babies mod, and w8 at least 6 more months for devs to fix this mistake of game.

[sethmage]

Originally Posted by travelingoz

I think it counts summoned units too.... i got it fairly early in the game playing no loss.......

Oh, I’m sure that counts them, my point is 10k units? At that stage I lost only 1 bear to the Eric, some to the spider and the mage and since I had high level units there weren’t that many of them, my only summons were the lizards (didn’t get call of nature until later), well also used touch of loki, but seriously that can’t possibly count. So I was very surprised that I got that achiev so early in the game.

[Nirual]

I'm guessing it counts kills even if you ressurected them. Or something along those lines.