Latest Patch HURRICANES NOT STARTING AGAIN???

[flyingblind]

Originally Posted by HorrorRoach

Wow, so we have to read posts on a forum to start a plane? Feel sorry for all the people who don't come here

Well, if they didn't come here they wouldn't know about the update so they wouldn't have installed it so they wouldn't have to read a post to find out how to start a plane. If you see what I mean.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

You poor thing..

I know it can be upsetting at times, not being able to get things to work on the first try..

But here is some additional info that might help you out..

From the patch notes..


That and you might want to 'read' JG52Uther re-post of what Farber had to say wrt starting the engines..

Where you can see 'some' people got the engines to start because they had the patience to try a few things before posting here that it was a bug

Good Luck!

That's the reason i asked you how can i start the Hurricane engine...

You are really amazing!

Now, please, go back to your cave...

[Force10]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

That's the reason i asked you how can i start the Hurricane engine...

You are really amazing!

Now, please, go back to your cave...

Ace is still in backpedal mode since he was telling the OP that it wasn't a bug and he just wasn't trying hard enough. Now he's on this "broken promise" crusade to help mask the fact that he put his foot in his mouth...again.

[bisher]

Ah but it's like we get two people in one.

'No will not cut off my arm. Okay I will cut off my arm, but I'm not pleased about it.'

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Catseye

Geeze,
Online.
Tried the startup procedures and it looks like the Hurricanes won't start again as before.

Also, key map is changed for full rich and full lean. They don't work!!

Maybe it's me but I don't think so.

Pretty fed-up with the quality of the fundamentals of the patches. I install them with the thought of "What have they broken now?"

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Maybe a better question would have been "Is anyone else having problems starting the Hurricane"? instead of yelling omg "HURRICANES NOT STARTING AGAIN??? ". Then if you didn't find adequate answers you could start screaming about how incompetent the devs are. Even then it would be in poor taste as its still a beta patch, and the reason its called a beta patch is to catch things like this. I would image the final RC patch will include a readme on the starting procedures for each aircraft. Something that would be a waste of time doing until most bugs and procedures are nailed down.

[Catseye]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Maybe a better question would have been "Is anyone else having problems starting the Hurricane"? instead of yelling omg "HURRICANES NOT STARTING AGAIN??? ". Then if you didn't find adequate answers you could start screaming about how incompetent the devs are. Even then it would be in poor taste as its still a beta patch, and the reason its called a beta patch is to catch things like this. I would image the final RC patch will include a readme on the starting procedures for each aircraft. Something that would be a waste of time doing until most bugs and procedures are nailed down.

I have confidence in my own evaluation of how and if aircraft start. I tested them all before posting. It doesn't need a readme to understand startup procedures by us the outside beta team. By now, I'm sure you have realized that it is a serious issue disclosed in caps. Beta patch or not, it is an example of very poor and in fact inadequate quality evaluation before release. ie., they broke what was working before and it should have been caught by the business managers. In fact, since they were trying to "fix" issues around mixture, it seems they didn't even test all paramaters after making changes. Very poor techinical as well as business procedures.

I, like many others are fed up with half-baked results - especially ones like the HURRICANE NOT STARTING AGAIN!

Caps are an indication of recognizing the incompetence of releasing a so called "release Candidate", of a Beta of a Beta ad infinitum. . . . A raised voice of incredulity!

While they may be improving frame-rate and other issues, the release of this candidate with this major flaw is beyond words for those of us who have been with this sim and the original IL2 since the beginning.

I do recognize that all efforts are being made for the next release, and that any improvements to this version are to solidify the engine for that new release and that changes to Cliffs itself is one big final patch to cover issues identified over the past year or so. Perhaps the amount of concentration directed towards Cliffs is so passive that it doesn't warrant closer scrutiny before release?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Catseye

I have confidence in my own evaluation of how and if aircraft start. I tested them all before posting. It doesn't need a readme to understand startup procedures by us the outside beta team. By now, I'm sure you have realized that it is a serious issue disclosed in caps. Beta patch or not, it is an example of very poor and in fact inadequate quality evaluation before release. ie., they broke what was working before and it should have been caught by the business managers. In fact, since they were trying to "fix" issues around mixture, it seems they didn't even test all paramaters after making changes. Very poor techinical as well as business procedures.

I, like many others are fed up with half-baked results - especially ones like the HURRICANE NOT STARTING AGAIN!

Caps are an indication of recognizing the incompetence of releasing a so called "release Candidate", of a Beta of a Beta ad infinitum. . . . A raised voice of incredulity!

While they may be improving frame-rate and other issues, the release of this candidate with this major flaw is beyond words for those of us who have been with this sim and the original IL2 since the beginning.

I do recognize that all efforts are being made for the next release, and that any improvements to this version are to solidify the engine for that new release and that changes to Cliffs itself is one big final patch to cover issues identified over the past year or so. Perhaps the amount of concentration directed towards Cliffs is so passive that it doesn't warrant closer scrutiny before release?

Again some people miss the whole point of releasing a Beta patch for Testing. If the development had the resources and every computer setup known to man they wouldn't release a BETA patch for the community to test. The devs must roll their eyes is disbelief when someone jumps up and down yelling.... I FOUND A BUG AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW STUPID THE DEVS ARE. But then again they already understand the negative side of involving the community when some will never understand the development process. I'm sure the good has outweighed the bad and they will continue to use our resources to help build the series.

Originally Posted by Chivas

Again some people miss the whole point of releasing a Beta patch for Testing. If the development had the resources and every computer setup known to man they wouldn't release a BETA patch for the community to test. The devs must roll their eyes is disbelief when someone jumps up and down yelling.... I FOUND A BUG AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW STUPID THE DEVS ARE. But then again they already understand the negative side of involving the community when some will never understand the development process. I'm sure the good has outweighed the bad and they will continue to use our resources to help build the series.

So its just certain PC configurations that are causing the Hurricane not to start, sorry I wasn't aware of that, I apologise.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

So its just certain PC configurations that are causing the Hurricane not to start, sorry I wasn't aware of that, I apologise.

Again you'll twist anyone words to suit your appalling negative agenda. If thats not the case try reading my post again, and note the resource comment in the same sentence.

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Again some people miss the whole point of releasing a Beta patch for Testing. If the development had the resources and every computer setup known to man they wouldn't release a BETA patch for the community to test. The devs must roll their eyes is disbelief when someone jumps up and down yelling.... I FOUND A BUG AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW STUPID THE DEVS ARE. But then again they already understand the negative side of involving the community when some will never understand the development process. I'm sure the good has outweighed the bad and they will continue to use our resources to help build the series.

Which is why I urge them to reply to this thread:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34643

+1 replies appreciated in the above thread. MP

No point in Beta testing and bug reports if they are not even read!