Suggestion for the 1C Devs

[Damixu]

Originally Posted by pstyle

oooof? I like the use of this vague term "hardcore"... a good way of ensuring you can weasel out of any examples to the contrary by claiming they just aint hardcore enough.
I bought 2 x GTX570s in SLI mode. Worked out of the box right away.. On games that actually support SLI (skyrim for one) it's bloody great.

Go ahead any fly decisive aerial battles in English channel in year 1940 with Skyrim.

I know most of the major titles in gaming support SLI/Crossfire but strangely several hardcore simulation games doesn't. I suppose it's because sims are quite niche market and the developer companies are very small or limited and they can't affort to program support those dual/trio GPU cards (or does not use ready made gaming enigne which could support out of the box).

edit: Byt the way, I love Skyrim

[Stublerone]

Just waste to use sli, sorry! It seems, that you are really thinking that sli will improve clod performance by far? I say: U only get a big performance increase with sli in clod, if you already have highend cards and start multiple display setups. A sli with mid range cards woulf only help under the circumstance, that your mid range card has 3 gb ram on every card. Otherwise, the tree rendering or other things wouldn't improve that much.

Be aware, that as soon as your card is running out of memory, clod will run insufficient.

I do not know, why some users really think, that sli is good!?! The currently used technique is insufficient until they rethink this whole sli thing and give us a new sli.

Simply dumb to talk about that technology in that state. Never think about sli as a cheap upgrade to get more power. It is just for a small part of the com, who spend a lot of money to max out to the highest possible.

Skyrim is for sure a good game but not comparable. Skyrim for me is casual gaming and the engine is optimized to work for consoles as well. So the load , the memory usage has to be low. Ps3 nearly has no memory. So, all this games never reach the memory usage of a pc sim game. ->That is, why u can really increase performance in skyrim, but not in clod (only with the explained hardware, which is not mid-range in most cases).

[flyingblind]

The OP dose have a point. I have a mid-range card with 1GB memory and at least wish I had got a 2GB version. The best option for me would be to buy a second matching card if only I could be sure that would work properly. Do I waste the first card and go for a better single GPU or do I risk wasting more, albeit a smaller amount of money on a SLI setup?

[Stublerone]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

The OP dose have a point. I have a mid-range card with 1GB memory and at least wish I had got a 2GB version. The best option for me would be to buy a second matching card if only I could be sure that would work properly. Do I waste the first card and go for a better single GPU or do I risk wasting more, albeit a smaller amount of money on a SLI setup?

Take into consideration, that 2 x1gb cards won't help. It is not 2 gb!!!!! It is still 1gb in sli, so your memory is way to low. Even a 2gb card will have problems in maxed setting and 1080p resolution, as the game will consume more than 2gb. My hd7970 is consuming up to 2,7 gb !!!! So even a sli with 2 x 2gb cannot help that much. So, 2 gb is the lowest memory, u should have to run it with some higher details, but still with stutters, if you are unlucky.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

The OP dose have a point. I have a mid-range card with 1GB memory and at least wish I had got a 2GB version. The best option for me would be to buy a second matching card if only I could be sure that would work properly. Do I waste the first card and go for a better single GPU or do I risk wasting more, albeit a smaller amount of money on a SLI setup?

Two 1Gb cards in SLI would still only give you 1Gb to work with and SLI inherently has small stutters

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Damixu

Hey, don't be stupid and buy SLI/Crossfire GPU combos. Every hardcore, I mean Hardcore game/sim only get worse with those. Those run of the mill sim look-a-likes doesn't count...

My golden rule is to buy always fastest single core GPU available and it works out of the box right away....

+1
All demanding games like ArmA, ArmA2, RoF had/have issues with SLI/xfire. It works in one patch and then does not work in next one. IIRC Jason wrote they could hardly get needed docs from NV but none from ATI. NV/ATI managers do not talk to such small companies as sim developers. Any patch or driver update can cause stutters. Especially when many single GPU users have stutters (due to big textures on higher settings usually or use of vsync, antivirus, etc.).

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by Ataros

+1
All demanding games like ArmA, ArmA2, RoF had/have issues with SLI/xfire. It works in one patch and then does not work in next one. IIRC Jason wrote they could hardly get needed docs from NV but none from ATI. NV/ATI managers do not talk to such small companies as sim developers. Any patch or driver update can cause stutters. Especially when many single GPU users have stutters (due to big textures on higher settings usually or use of vsync, antivirus, etc.).

And why are those games demanding? There is no real multicore support and the graphic engines are totally antiquated. I.e. Armed Assault still uses the Operation Flashpoint engine. Even BI is consquently improving it, the engine is more than 10 years old! They sold it so many times and I'm sure that they will sell it again with ArmA 3. So no surprise for me at all.

But this would not explain the problems we face at CloD as the engine is brand-new and up to date.....