Steam Commentors

[DroopSnoot]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

As I recall the Steam was forced upon Oleg as was the name Cliffs of Dover, just before release from UbiSoft.

Ubisoft is the distributor and owns rights of distribution, except in Russia.

Good luck with your whines and complaints with UbiSoft.

It was too much trouble to separate the Russian version from UbiSoft requirements.

It was best action to go along with UbiSoft for best distribution of COD.

"You can't always get what you want"

Very responsible thread especially from a moderator.

[pupaxx]

Originally Posted by DroopSnoot

Very responsible thread especially from a moderator.

+1 same thought here, I' don't understand if this thread is referring to my previous post in which I asked for help with steam issues or I missed previous discussions; 'good luck with your whining and complaints about ubisoft' seems to belong to different subjects than a moderator,... how do u call it? trolls?.
On my count I wasn't whining about nothing...
this thread rains from a clear sky...we say
Cheers

[Madfish]

Trust me, you won't get anywhere here when pointing out that a moderator acts like a donkey even if he acts like a donkey. Personal experience. All you'll get is a ban - even if they flame you in PM's.

That aside I must point out that Steam has pro's and con's.

- Patch distribution is all good. But what do you need it for when you get a patch once a year? (Beta's not included)
- Steam sales? Meaningless in this case as well. I haven't seen a single decent CloD sale on steam. It was sold for 15€ on the web...
- Also... steam is not good when it comes to preventing piracy. There isn't a single steam game which is uncracked.

I have like 4 Steam accounts and probably well over 400 games on them. But I still don't like the decision.


My personal take on it is: Steam is good, and only then, if you want to target younger folks (which isn't bad) AND definitely if you have an awesome online gameplay to offer so people can actually make use of the steam interface, useíng steam groups, friendlist, join friends games etc.

Since the game, campaign and multiplayer is pretty bland I'd say younger folks aren't in the scope. And the multiplayer component needs a bit more patching.



The biggest downside I see is with future expansions and the lack of the SDK. So much content for IL-2 1946 out there but CloD still lacks and I'm not sure if Steam as a platform will allow for this to change. But only time will tell.

[ATAG_Septic]

[QUOTE=nearmiss;412068]As I recall the Steam was forced upon Oleg as was the name Cliffs of Dover, just before release from UbiSoft.

Ubisoft is the distributor and owns rights of distribution, except in Russia.

Good luck with your whines and complaints with UbiSoft.

It was too much trouble to separate the Russian version from UbiSoft requirements.

It was best action to go along with UbiSoft for best distribution of COD.

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"You can't always get what you want"

..."But you can get what you need"


Septic.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by TheEditor

I was already using steam before and didn't have a problem with it. Steam has great sales. I'm more worried about the state of CloD.

The IL2 crowd here hate change. That is why they hate steam. Its the mentality of "I got by without it before, why do I need It now." Their old and set in there ways. Now get off my lawn.

It sounds ok as long as everything runs fine.

It sucks when it breaks and you can´t access any of the games you bought, like it happend yesterday for entire German Steam community for 24h.

If for some reason Valve goes broke or isn´t reachable anymore you can forget about all of your games.

I call that very risky.


The fact that steam makes great sales means nothing to your rights or security.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil

It sounds ok as long as everything runs fine.

It sucks when it breaks and you can´t access any of the games you bought, like it happend yesterday for entire German Steam community for 24h.

Save your login information on your Computer and the next time it happens, switch to offline mode. in all those years, offline mode almost always worked, only if steam went down during a platform update, only then was steam inaccesible.

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil

If for some reason Valve goes broke or isn´t reachable anymore you can forget about all of your games.

That´s not necessarily true. You can definitely forget about VALVe games, that´s for sure. Egosoft for example confirmed, that if steam goes down, they would release a "No Steam Patch" for their upcoming game X-Rebirth. Other Developers might do the same.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Madfish

Trust me, you won't get anywhere here when pointing out that a moderator acts like a donkey even if he acts like a donkey. Personal experience. All you'll get is a ban - even if they flame you in PM's.

That aside I must point out that Steam has pro's and con's.

- Patch distribution is all good. But what do you need it for when you get a patch once a year? (Beta's not included)
- Steam sales? Meaningless in this case as well. I haven't seen a single decent CloD sale on steam. It was sold for 15€ on the web...
- Also... steam is not good when it comes to preventing piracy. There isn't a single steam game which is uncracked.

I have like 4 Steam accounts and probably well over 400 games on them. But I still don't like the decision.


My personal take on it is: Steam is good, and only then, if you want to target younger folks (which isn't bad) AND definitely if you have an awesome online gameplay to offer so people can actually make use of the steam interface, useíng steam groups, friendlist, join friends games etc.

Since the game, campaign and multiplayer is pretty bland I'd say younger folks aren't in the scope. And the multiplayer component needs a bit more patching.



The biggest downside I see is with future expansions and the lack of the SDK. So much content for IL-2 1946 out there but CloD still lacks and I'm not sure if Steam as a platform will allow for this to change. But only time will tell.

I used to be a regular member of this forums and frequently posted.

Being a moderator has it's problems. Now as moderator it is best just to be the forums police is what I'm reading.

If moderators post there is always someone that wants to make a point with some sort of bashing against the mod. Some of it is probably pent up rage, which is sad.

Anyway, who needs it. So, back to the chastisement of the troops for me I guess.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

Save your login information on your Computer and the next time it happens, switch to offline mode. in all those years, offline mode almost always worked, only if steam went down during a platform update, only then was steam inaccesible.

THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE YESTERDAY FOR ANYONE IN GERMANY THAT COULD NOT CONNECT.

That´s not necessarily true. You can definitely forget about VALVe games, that´s for sure. Egosoft for example confirmed, that if steam goes down, they would release a "No Steam Patch" for their upcoming game X-Rebirth. Other Developers might do the same.

If there is still any support for that very game, you are correct.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil

THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE YESTERDAY FOR ANYONE IN GERMANY THAT COULD NOT CONNECT.

Sorry, just read through the 4p board, for some it worked, for most not. for whatever reason, steam ignored saved logininfos and tried to go online, making offline mode unusable. sorry for that. and pls, next time, don´t yell at me, my ears are still bleedin´

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by addman

I'd like to add to this that I think Steam is a great service, it has some minor quirks but compared to everything else out there it is king, for many reasons.

just wait till steam goes down and you cant play ANY of the games you legitimately purchased...