Nachtjager-Wouldn't night fighters be cool?

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

I want a nite fighter Ju88

The onboard radar would be cool!

[rga]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

I want a nite fighter Ju88

The onboard radar would be cool!

Except the fact that German night fighter pilots never had to use onboard radar. It was the radar operator who did this job and fed pilots with information. Unless the game allows you to play as radar operator and command the pilot where to fly, players would have to do the job of two people at once. I would be happy with system like in modded 1946, where you receive instruction from an imaginary radar operator.

[Tavingon]

I want the fighter junkers 88 with the cannons and machine guns

I've got a feeling its going to be in BOM

[julien673]

The Heinkel He 219 Uhu Uhu (Owl) was the only Luftwaffe nightfighter capable of stalking and fighting the RAF Mosquito on equal terms. Heinkel first offered the design in August 1940, but the German Air Ministry was not interested, believing that the war would be won before such an aircraft could be produced. Not until RAF night raids were beginning to build up in intensity in late 1941 was it decided to go ahead with the design as a specialized nightfighter. The prototype flew on 15 November 1942. The first experimental mission was flown by Major Werner Streib from Venlo, Holland on the night of 11-12 June 1943. Infiltrating a stream of RAF Lancasters bound for Berlin, he shot down five in 30 minutes. Preference continued to be given to the Ju 88G, and only 268 Uhu were completed. Basic armament was six cannon

From http://www.reocities.com/pentagon/28...219/he219.html

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by rga

Except the fact that German night fighter pilots never had to use onboard radar. It was the radar operator who did this job and fed pilots with information. Unless the game allows you to play as radar operator and command the pilot where to fly, players would have to do the job of two people at once. I would be happy with system like in modded 1946, where you receive instruction from an imaginary radar operator.

hehe

the poor twin engine pilots work loads already too much, cant the radar guy just say "up/down/left/right"





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[choctaw111]

As long as we have the glimmspur night tracer.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by rga

Except the fact that German night fighter pilots never had to use onboard radar. It was the radar operator who did this job and fed pilots with information. Unless the game allows you to play as radar operator and command the pilot where to fly, players would have to do the job of two people at once. I would be happy with system like in modded 1946, where you receive instruction from an imaginary radar operator.

It wouldn't be very hard to implement a radar operator for a Nightfighter scenario i assume. Imaginary radar operator also would be ok.
Interesting scenario indeed, otherwise it would need more planes like the Avro Manchester, Armstrong Whitworth Whitley, Short Stirling, Handley Page Halifax or Handely Page Hampden, the Defiant as Nightfighter and on the German Side not only BF 110 and Ju 88 also a HE 219, DO 217J or DO 217N would be pretty cool.

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Definately a good choice for Cliffs of Dover ,The Beaufighter in its night fighter role.
From Wikipedia.
"The Beaufighter found itself coming off the production line at almost exactly the same time as the first British Airborne Interception (AI) Night fighter radar sets. With the four 20 mm cannon mounted in the lower fuselage, the nose could accommodate the radar antennas, and the general spaciousness of the fuselage enabled the AI equipment to be fitted easily. Even loaded to 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) the plane was fast enough to catch German bombers."
There were also six 303`s fitted .
The Bf 110-G had radar fitted post Battle of Britain so could be available in BoM.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by 6BL Bird-Dog

Definately a good choice for Cliffs of Dover ,The Beaufighter in its night fighter role.
From Wikipedia.
"The Beaufighter found itself coming off the production line at almost exactly the same time as the first British Airborne Interception (AI) Night fighter radar sets. With the four 20 mm cannon mounted in the lower fuselage, the nose could accommodate the radar antennas, and the general spaciousness of the fuselage enabled the AI equipment to be fitted easily. Even loaded to 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) the plane was fast enough to catch German bombers."
There were also six 303`s fitted .
The Bf 110-G had radar fitted post Battle of Britain so could be available in BoM.

IIRC there was only one full Nachtjagdgeschwader at the Eastern Front which was NJG 100 starting in September 1943 and before that 10. and 12./NJG 5 flew operations in Russia during January 1943. Both 10. and 12./NJG 5 moved to Bryansk and Orel in June 1943, for Operation Citadel and operated under Luftflotte 6 in the Smolensk-Bryansk area and under Luftflotte 4 in the Poltava-Stalino area before transfered back to Germany in September 1943.

Yup the Beaufighter would be great and it could be used as Nightfighter in almost every future Scenario which may come.
Just a question: was the Beaufighter able to carry out Long distance night fighter missions or was this done by the Mosquito?

[6BL Bird-Dog]

The faster Mosquito took over in the night fighter role in mid to late 1942, The Beaufighters were used for anti-shipping, ground attack and long-range attacks on enemy assets .
Costal command equiped them for anti shipping with air to surface radar which was also handy for bad weather and night bombing raids.
Beaus could be equipped with Torpedo, bombs or rockets & proved successful in supressing flack from shipping whilst other aircraft attacked with bombs.
Still looking to see if there is any info on long range night fighter or bomber escort missions but the Mossie may have slotted into this role along with its pathfinder duties.