Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:27 PM
badfinger badfinger is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 322
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pupo162 View Post
well, a question:

what tank battles took place in the battle of britain?
That's kind of my question, too. Even if the tanks are for the Battle of France, this is a flight sim. We need to have air battles over France, with a sim that improves with each patch. Showing me what tanks may do in the future sounds an awful lot like bait and switch. As in saying "I can't improve the FM right now, so let me show you some pretty tanks that I hope will divert your attention for at least a week."

binky9
__________________
Win10 64 bit
1T Hard Drive
ASUS P67 motherboard
Intel i7 3.4ghz Processor
GTX 780 Graphics Card OC
24GB Ram
Track IR5
50" LG HDMI LED 1920x1080 60hrz
MS FFB2 Stick
CH Pedals
Saitek Throttle/Prop/Mixture and Trim wheel
Thrustmaster MFDs

League City, TX
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:29 PM
ATAG_MajorBorris's Avatar
ATAG_MajorBorris ATAG_MajorBorris is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Minnesota, USA
Posts: 342
Default

Well played Bliss.

Its about gameplay, and added content that gives mission builders strategic and tactical options makes "gameplay" more varied and interesting for the players(which in turn could fire up the builders creative juices).

I doubt this could ever replace Steel Beasts as a tank sim but it sure will be cool for the missions in CoD.
__________________
ASUS Sabertooth MB--Intel 2600k@4.7--EVGA GTX580 3GB--Corasir 1200 watt psu--Corsair 16gb 1866--Corsair H70 cooler--Corsair 650d case--OCZ Vertex 3--Track IR5--CH Eclipse Yoke--CH Trottle Quadrant--CH MFP--CH Rudders-MSFF2
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:33 PM
csThor csThor is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: somewhere in Germany
Posts: 1,213
Default

If realism and historical accuracy is your goal then not at all. For starters who's fluid in tank tactics 1939-45 style? Hardly anyone. Would players stick to these tactics? Nope. Can historical strengths and weaknesses be depicted? Nope.

The thing is any kind of human involvement in the ground war will end in some kind of brawl, inevitable leading to a stalemate of some kind. Quite honestly I'd prefer more FMB control over the ground AI (like telling artillery which area to shell and when, telling tanks when to advance in which formation at what speed etc etc).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:40 PM
David Hayward David Hayward is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,183
Default

Adding more ways for people to be involved in Cod/BoM/IL2 battles is awesome.

How about if we try assuming that they'll get it right and wait to start complaining until they actually screw it up.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:42 PM
SlipBall's Avatar
SlipBall SlipBall is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: down Island, NY
Posts: 2,719
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by csThor View Post
If realism and historical accuracy is your goal then not at all. For starters who's fluid in tank tactics 1939-45 style? Hardly anyone. Would players stick to these tactics? Nope. Can historical strengths and weaknesses be depicted? Nope.

The thing is any kind of human involvement in the ground war will end in some kind of brawl, inevitable leading to a stalemate of some kind. Quite honestly I'd prefer more FMB control over the ground AI (like telling artillery which area to shell and when, telling tanks when to advance in which formation at what speed etc etc).

What's the difference? look how people fly...certainly tactics are ignored by most...hey Bub, fill the tank!...oh, and check the oil
__________________



GigaByteBoard...64bit...FX 4300 3.8, G. Skill sniper 1866 32GB, EVGA GTX 660 ti 3gb, Raptor 64mb cache, Planar 120Hz 2ms, CH controls, Tir5

Last edited by SlipBall; 02-24-2012 at 07:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-24-2012, 06:47 PM
JG52Uther's Avatar
JG52Uther JG52Uther is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,358
Default

I still think the original title Storm Of War was more apt. This was never just a flight sim. I can't believe that anyone who has been here for any length of time, and has followed this thing since the beginning, would think anything different.
David, your post made me lol and is spot on.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-24-2012, 07:24 PM
ATAG_Bliss ATAG_Bliss is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,156
Default

I think it's quite clear many people didn't pay attention to the updates at all. It's was fairly obvious more than 2 years ago about the vehicles, just not to the extent. And I'm sure they have many more surprises up their sleeves. Gotta love the ambition.
__________________

ATAG Forums + Stats
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-24-2012, 07:43 PM
badfinger badfinger is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 322
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss View Post
I think it's quite clear many people didn't pay attention to the updates at all. It's was fairly obvious more than 2 years ago about the vehicles, just not to the extent. And I'm sure they have many more surprises up their sleeves. Gotta love the ambition.
Being one of those that did pay attention to the updates, I remember several things that were fairly obvious more than 2 years ago, and I still haven't seen some of them.

The weekly updates still seem to me to be bones thrown to the pack to keep them happy. Mind you, I like CoD as it is, and fly it 3-4 times a week. I just want weekly updates that talk about what is coming next month, not next year, or in the next sequel.

binky9
__________________
Win10 64 bit
1T Hard Drive
ASUS P67 motherboard
Intel i7 3.4ghz Processor
GTX 780 Graphics Card OC
24GB Ram
Track IR5
50" LG HDMI LED 1920x1080 60hrz
MS FFB2 Stick
CH Pedals
Saitek Throttle/Prop/Mixture and Trim wheel
Thrustmaster MFDs

League City, TX
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-24-2012, 07:50 PM
David Hayward David Hayward is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,183
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by binky9 View Post
updates that talk about what is coming next month, not next year, or in the next sequel.
Lots of people will be complaining about the CoD dev team working on tanks. That is coming next month, next year, and with the next sequel. Then the people who complained about tanks will be complaining that their tanks aren't using the right fuel and don't have the right ammo loadout.

Consider yourself updated.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-24-2012, 07:54 PM
badfinger badfinger is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 322
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Hayward View Post
Lots of people will be complaining about the CoD dev team working on tanks. That is coming next month, next year, and with the next sequel. Then the people who complained about tanks will be complaining that their tanks aren't using the right fuel and don't have the right ammo loadout.

Consider yourself updated.
But nothing specific about what everyone knows needs to get fixed? Damn.

binky9
__________________
Win10 64 bit
1T Hard Drive
ASUS P67 motherboard
Intel i7 3.4ghz Processor
GTX 780 Graphics Card OC
24GB Ram
Track IR5
50" LG HDMI LED 1920x1080 60hrz
MS FFB2 Stick
CH Pedals
Saitek Throttle/Prop/Mixture and Trim wheel
Thrustmaster MFDs

League City, TX
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.