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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-25-2012, 09:48 AM
TomcatViP TomcatViP is offline
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WGG Duncan Smith, who flew Spitfires from near the end of the Battle of Britain and ended the war as a Wing Commander with 17 victories got into a tricky situation returning from a bomber escort mission to Lille:

First he was nearly flipped over by a Bofors 40mm as he was approaching the English coast...then, to add to his problems...

"Relaxing my tense muscles I looked over my shoulder and caught my breath as I saw a 109 over on my right,...and saw another on the opposite side....flogging the last pound of boost out of my engine, eased my aircraft down even closer to the tops of the waves. The 109s opened fire, first the one to the right...I skidded my aircraft to the left....the one on the left opened fire...and I repeated the manoeuvre in the opposite direction. I soon realised that each time I did this it slowed me down....There was only one thing left to do: I heaved back on the stick and zoomed up in an off-centre loop to the left....I watched over my shoulder and saw the 109 pull up after me, firing. Harder, I pressed on the stick until I felt the wings start to judder. Suddenly the 109 flicked and spun - the horizon came back into view above my head and quickly I rolled out into a tight turn....I picked out one of the 109s, also in a turn, but circling away from me." After which Duncan Smith headed back to sea level and got back to base (Spitfire Into Battle, 2002, pp 73-74)

Trying to dodge and weave can just kill your speed, so Duncan Smith saved himself at sea level by using his momentum to pull up into a hard turning spiral which the 109s couldn't match...don't think the one chasing him ended up in the 'oggin, but it might have been close.
I don't want to take over Jf1981 thread but it's intersesting eough to make a comment (appart from your own obscession of "Boost 'n Spit")

When you are talking about "his momentum" in the hard pulled spiral, how do you see that ? Can you give us some precision and description of the sequence of event ?
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:32 PM
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Nice. But dogfighting inside SPITFIRES is not a real trick. Waiting the one you will teach how succefully dogfight SPITS inside 109's.
That's planned for part 2, doing this with pleasure.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:07 PM
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Your new dogfight tutorial is much appreciated. Your focus on rudder and sideslip was a revelation... I also found that same focus to be very illuminating in your other video: Aircraft Aerodynamics.
Thanks for the effort and I definitely hope you create "IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Dogfight Part 2"... and 3.. and more!

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Old 02-26-2012, 01:03 AM
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Thanks for the video jf1981! I have a question for you though, are you possibly using track IR or freetrack? And if so, how were you able to set it up so when you look behind your head moves to the proper position instead of your eyes spinning around to the back of your headrest?

I've tried enabling 'relative' movement in freetrack but it doesn't work anywhere near good enough.

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Old 02-26-2012, 10:29 AM
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[...] are you possibly using track IR or freetrack? [...]
No, I tried but find it more distrubing than usefull. I'm using left hand mouse look in fact.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:06 PM
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No, I tried but find it more distrubing than usefull. I'm using left hand mouse look in fact.
??? track ir or freetrack is very natural and instintic to use
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:09 PM
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??? track ir or freetrack is very natural and instintic to use
i desagree too. unless you have a reaaaaalllly big screen ( 40'' ) or a triple screen setup.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:23 PM
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i have 27" monitor
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:52 PM
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Most of the people i know find it natural (including myself), but i've heard of a lot getting motion sickness when using it or getting confused with relative/absolute positioning in the sideways and zoom axis.

To tell you the truth, first time i tried it i also found it difficult and strange, but i got used to it quite fast.
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:48 AM
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Nice video!

Always nice to see community contributions like this.
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