DM - Spitfire wings made of concrete?

[Richie]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Wood ?

She's a TOUGH ONE!!

[Richie]

Originally Posted by Richie

She's a TOUGH ONE!!

I always liked Hurricanes for some reason. You say Spitfire and even little kids will know what you're talking about. You say Hurricane and they think you'll start talking about the southern United States.

Then again if you say Messerschmitt you might get......."What mess where"?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Richie

I always liked Hurricanes for some reason. You say Spitfire and even little kids will know what you're talking about. You say Hurricane and they think you'll start talking about the southern United States.

Then again if you say Messerschmitt you might get......."What mess where"?

I'd say that entirely depends on where you ask that question

+1 to the thread starter and an interesting read so far

[TomcatViP]

Two pic :

- one illustrating the drag generated by fabric covered early wing design
- the other showing the early Hurri internal structure

Early Hurri = MkI

The Rotol hurri had alrdy metal covered wing (mkIa)

Perso as a child I liked very much the Hurricane with it's strange rear fuselage structure that looks better as a 1/72th model.

Thx Sutts for providing us with raw "intelligence" data from 1c. We need more like this !

Ths Spit spar with the big adjusting bolt is simply too scary to stare at !

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Two pic :

- one illustrating the drag generated by fabric covered early wing design
- the other showing the early Hurri internal structure

Early Hurri = MkI

The Rotol hurri had alrdy metal covered wing (mkIa)

Perso as a child I liked very much the Hurricane with it's strange rear fuselage structure that looks better as a 1/72th model.

Thx Sutts for providing us with raw "intelligence" data from 1c. We need more like this !

Ths Spit spar with the big adjusting bolt is simply too scary to stare at !

Interesting pics there TomcatViP, thanks. I wasn't aware of the early fabric covered wings on the Hurri. I guess if the fabric burnt away it would fly like a brick Scary stuff.

[Varrattu]

Current values for iL2CoD wing damage model

BF109E:
WingL0 & WingR0 - Durability 90
WingL1 & WingR1 - Durability 122
WingL2 & WingR2 - Durability 73
WingL3 & WingR3 - Durability 87
WingL4 & WingR4 - Durability 68
WingL5 & WingR5 - Durability 59

Spitfire:
WingL0 & WingR0 - Durability 100
WingL1 & WingR1 - Durability 100
WingL2 & WingR2 - Durability 100
WingL3 & WingR3 - Durability 100
WingL4 & WingR4 - Durability 100
WingL5 & WingR5 - Durability 100
WingL6 & WingR6 - Durability 100
WingL7 & WingR7 - Durability 100

Hurricane:
WingL0 & WingR0 - Durability 118
WingL1 & WingR1 - Durability 99
WingL2 & WingR2 - Durability 266
WingL3 & WingR3 - Durability 122
WingL4 & WingR4 - Durability 151
WingL5 & WingR5 - Durability 98
WingL6 & WingR6 - Durability 71
WingL7 & WingR7 - Durability 1

Regards Varrattu

[41Sqn_Banks]

Are the values for the other parts of the Spitfire 100, too?

[Varrattu]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Are the values for the other parts of the Spitfire 100, too?

Hi Banks,

the current values are identical for all types of BF109E, Spitfires or Hurricanes.

Most of the Spitfire values are 100 and more, for example:
Nose0 - Durability 1000
Nose1 - Durability 150
Engine0 - Durability 200

Regards Varrattu

PS: there are a few other values called sponger09, sponger11 etc., I have no idea what they are for... ...

Why should the spit be more durable than the messer? The messer is the smaller aircraft with smaller wings and its empty weight is almost identical to that of the spit. One should think that it was hence built tougher.

[41Sqn_Banks]

We can't read from that values which aircraft is tougher, because the parts may have a different size in each aircraft.

One explanation for the 100 values could be that the Spitfire is the reference implementation. If the wing of the Hurricane would be 25% tougher than that of a Spitfire it would have the value 125 and so on.