Suddenly Spit IIa on all the servers?

[Ze-Jamz]

If the 109 pilot is an ACE? Ok granted BUT the Spit2 pilot can be a novice and still do well...you can fly a crosshair around the sky untill you shoot something..

You dont have to worry about Speed/energy & height..I can jump in it and not worry about getting in a furball with 2/3 109's OR worry about a Merge with a 109 Co-Alt

Infact 10 mins ago i done just that, same Alt on the merge with a 109, We both went vertical and I got to the top quicker and held it...he was smoking and crash landed 2 mins later...then i shot down another who dove down on me with loads more E, within pretty much 2 turns ive matched his E state, 10 secs later..dead...neither of these pilots were novices

Surely it wasnt that easy in RL? If it was then we would have had alot more big scoring aces!

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

There should be a slight difference, for different weights, and I understand (where's Kurfurst when you need him?) that the E-3's engines produced about 75 more HP. Not alot I know, but a little better.

The Spit II is a bit more than 100kph faster than any current 109, so it is a bit of an uneven matchup. Spits should be faster up high, not down low, and not to the extent that they can outclimb the 109s, even down low.

all 109s in game has the same armourequipment......so, their general weight is the same.
the E-1 had some few kilos less because of the armament.
Production , maintenance and pilotweight differences simle made this small difference to zero in performance.
What engine they had? DB 601A-1 or the little bit more powerfull DB601Aa, well, both is possible for all variants.


the decissions 1C made in the past about fightervariants are questionable anyway.

Spit I and Hurri I both with Rotol CSP and 100 octan fuel.
Bf109E-1& -4 (plus their -/Bs), both with Db601Aa
would have be my release set.......

later added with Spitfire II, Hurricane II and Bf109E-4/N


british two speed propeller fighters, 109E-3 , were total nonsense decissions IMHO!

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

If the 109 pilot is an ACE? Ok granted BUT the Spit2 pilot can be a novice and still do well...you can fly a crosshair around the sky untill you shoot something..

You dont have to worry about Speed/energy & height..I can jump in it and not worry about getting in a furball with 2/3 109's OR worry about a Merge with a 109 Co-Alt

Infact 10 mins ago i done just that, same Alt on the merge with a 109, We both went vertical and I got to the top quicker and held it...he was smoking and crash landed 2 mins later...then i shot down another who dove down on me with loads more E, within pretty much 2 turns ive matched his E state, 10 secs later..dead...neither of these pilots were novices

Surely it wasnt that easy in RL? If it was then we would have had alot more big scoring aces!

LOL nice way of putting it, the spit 2 does seem to out class the 109. I just cant seem to stall it dogfighting compared to the 109 that is always on a knifes edge.

[ElAurens]

I really enjoy watching the 109 whiners in their ever persistent quest to re-write history.

Cry me a freaking river.

This nonsense has been going on since the dawn of flight simulation. A sub set of German aircraft fanboys pushing their agenda and history be damned.

I laugh in your general direction.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I really enjoy watching the 109 whiners in their ever persistent quest to re-write history.

Cry me a freaking river.

This nonsense has been going on since the dawn of flight simulation. A sub set of German aircraft fanboys pushing their agenda and history be damned.

I laugh in your general direction.

Dude grow up this is not whiners its a fact, currently the only aircraft that has a realistic FM is the Spit Mk2... IRL it could turn better, it could climb better (i think) but currently its MUCH MUCH faster than a 109 as well lol .

[robtek]

But even a stall-dogfighting, winning against a spit II, Bf109 is a sitting duck then for even a hurri I 5-20!!

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Winger

Go fart around elsewhere Pupo Explanation: German Pups = Fart.
Ah and let me guess. You fly allied side mostly? Since noone that prefers flying german has left big fun since this practice started. Just take a look at the numbers. Post this habbit the sides were most of the time even with some runaways to the one or the other side. Now there are jusut a few Germans and believe me even those will vanish if it stays like that. They simply start flying allied. And only the noobs that dont know it better jump into the coffin named 109. Even a bad Spit pilot in a IIa must be just stupid to loose a fight against a 109 on even energylevels. Even if the 109 is an ace.

Winger

I fly german has a favorite, Red if teams are unbalanced.

[robtek]

ElAurens,

you've just lost a lot credibility!
Fact is that all 109 and some other planes perform not as good as in RL.
The spit II comes closest to RL performance, giving a unneeded advantage!

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I really enjoy watching the 109 whiners in their ever persistent quest to re-write history.

Cry me a freaking river.

This nonsense has been going on since the dawn of flight simulation. A sub set of German aircraft fanboys pushing their agenda and history be damned.

I laugh in your general direction.

lets see in some years when a first Curtis will arrive in this game engine and it will perform far away from the stats you know. As best , a correct modelled Ki-43 will outdive it



actually im wondering why people belive a Spit II was the wonderweapon against an 109. The 1940 Spits where very good. But it is not so ,as if had had a Spit9 with Merlin66 appeared in combat 1940.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I really enjoy watching the 109 whiners in their ever persistent quest to re-write history.

Cry me a freaking river.

This nonsense has been going on since the dawn of flight simulation. A sub set of German aircraft fanboys pushing their agenda and history be damned.

I laugh in your general direction.

Couple of words for you to ponder on FlyBoy... Dora n TA (Il2), no allied pilots moaned then either no?.. please

Lol..you obviously cant remember the 109 then when it first came to Il2?... how about the La or Yak then again the 25lb Spit..or like i say the TA..

Dude get of that pedistool.. this is about balance...Its not about wanting to change history, its also about having the FM's as close to RL as possible