see the difference. camera shake affect tracer look (small simulation)

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by wannabetheace

speaking of military I see some documentary that some sas teams train with airsoft guns so do the american special forces. they even have their brand supplier called systema.
everyone can't be swat or whatever specialists they what. but it is cheap way to experience it while living ur everyday life.

I don't believe for a second that SAS and American special forces use airsoft. You train with the gear that you use in the field, and airsoft guns aren't as loud, aren't as heavy and don't have nearly as much recoil as real weapons. Not to mention the muzzle velocities are way lower.

General dynamics makes what is called Simunition, a variety of different rounds that can be fired through real weapons. My military friends say they use this when they train; I'd be willing to bet that most other armed forces use similar products.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Airsoft is basically a bunch of Tacticool noobs who run around with guns that shoot plastic pellets, pretending to be SWAT teams.

Sure, but what about flight simmers?
Nerds, living in the basement pretending to be WW2 pilots.
As the only sit on a chair, thats way worse.

[Gribbers]

Originally Posted by swiss

Sure, but what about flight simmers?
Nerds, living in the basement pretending to be WW2 pilots.
As the only sit on a chair, thats way worse.

+100 to that.

I live in a basement, and I pretend to be a WW2 pilot (because there's no way I can afford to do the real thing) And I'm a nerd

Back on topic, the only people I'm ever going to trust to give any kind of valid opinion on what tracers should look like for THIS sim, is someone who's regularly fired tracer rounds, at another aircraft, whilst flying at 300kph+ (specifically between the months of July and October in 1940...over the Channel)

Or someone who's sat in an aircraft having tracers rounds pummled at them at over 300kph+

[wannabetheace]

Originally Posted by machoo

Wtf is airsoft? is it like an American thing? Is it basically skirmish with more bullets?

Airsoft is world wide sport it is popular almost everywhere, milisim kind of hobby.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by wannabetheace

For those how say tracers don't look like the ones in the film .
Here is a video footage where u can clearly see how tracers are seen when camera shakes. This is an airsoft night game with tracer bbs. hope u guys like it.

btw, airsofting is my another hobby besides IL2 .

Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.

ROFL!!!
I almost spilled my coffee.

[wannabetheace]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Erm, no.

It's like you're trying to explain how a firefly works using a lightbulb: they might look similar, but it's not the same thing.

that's the point. I didn't mean same but similar. just see the difference btw camera mounted bb tracer and other tracer that shot by other people. if u see the difference then u can imagine the difference by pilot guncam tracer and pilot see the tracer by their own eyes.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by wannabetheace

that's the point. I didn't mean same but similar. just see the difference btw camera mounted bb tracer and other tracer that shot by other people. if u see the difference then u can imagine the difference by pilot guncam tracer and pilot see the tracer by their own eyes.

ok, maybe I didn't understand your first post then: what are you trying to prove?

[Wolf_Rider]

I think he's trying to say what was pointed out in the other thread, time and time again.... some people see guncam footage and think that's how it is to the naked eye - guncam footage jerks around a bit.

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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

I think he's trying to say what was pointed out in the other thread, time and time again.... some people see guncam footage and think that's how it is to the naked eye - guncam footage jerks around a bit.

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Ah ok, need more caffeine today!