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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-09-2011, 11:04 AM
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:15 AM
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I think most of you know my feelings about the development of CLOD, all the things i was asking questions about have mostly come to fruition unfortunately. However, the game is what is is and the rest is history, the only way now is forward or back to Il2 Sturm. Everything else has been said, its now time for the whiners and fanboys to help report bugs in the hope that this software can eventually move forward.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:24 AM
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A...hmmm...no....B....or A? maybe C? or rather D? i give up, im so confused now.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:44 AM
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Not hating to deepest hell nor praising to heaven and back. I just wait what will happen with CoD after US release and how the patches will fix issues reported here. Then I will start dig into it. Until then just testing the patches to see if any differences to previous versions and such.

And no, not gonna praise RoF either. I have it and like it. But I can say that World of Tanks offers me most fun at the moment even with it's more than clear pro-Russian bias. But nevertheless that game works and offers something to kill time with
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:32 PM
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well ... in all of the above categories of post I have no difficulty understanding the frustration of the so called 'haters' (is someone who feels screwed really a 'hater' or merely someone who needs to vent their anger and frustration?). However, I have much more difficulty understanding, and empathising with the lovers.

The logic of those who believe that we should be grateful to the producers of a broken product (I think we can agree on the verity of that term) when they try to fix it completely defies me.

Some of the most interesting (and entertaining) defences are those which try to convince us that 'hey, this is normal, all great games are broken on release'. Ah, the narcotic qualities of self delusion

Hence I read the posts, and try to understand

Sorry Mystic Puma, but the threads on this forum are way too entertaining to relegate to a. b. c. d. etc. Where's the fun in that?

best wishes, gwpc
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:49 PM
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A: let's be a drama queen
B: let's start a useless thread
and on and on ....
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:03 PM
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E: Watching from the sidelines, waiting to purchase until after the Dust settles, or the mushroom cloud dissipates.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:48 PM
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Marmite versus Vegemite...which is worse?
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:49 PM
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Not hating to deepest hell nor praising to heaven and back. I just wait what will happen with CoD after US release and how the patches will fix issues reported here. Then I will start dig into it. Until then just testing the patches to see if any differences to previous versions and such.
Pretty much how i view the current situation. Sure, there's a lot of problems with CoD and even my most expected feature (CEM) seems a bit weird or in need of some tweaking, but after flying CoD i just can't go back to IL2-style CEM. It was fine for its time, but it seems too simplistic after flying CoD.

This might be a bit hazy now, but it will become very interesting in later expansions with late-war hotrod fighters.
I could fly blue and be outperformed at 30000ft by pretty much any allied fighter but i'll have a fully automatic ride with big guns, or i can fly red and have the best performing fighters with smaller guns and completely manual engine management that terribly adds to the workload (mixture, prop pitch, throttle, turbocharger, intercoolers, oil coolers, radiators/cowl flaps).

Interestingly enough, the situation is reversed in the early war planesets where the axis usually has the performance advantage (constant speed props or two-stage props on allied aircraft vs fully manual pitch control on luftwaffe aircraft), so we end up with a more balanced sim without having to compromise accuracy to artificially balance it, in fact it's more accurate with the new CEM.

In IL2 every aircraft was more or less similar and with far less controls needed (even if they are there, there's no real penalty for not using them correctly), which ends up favoring the best performing aircraft in each case (blue for early war, red for late war).

After flying CoD and having to work for that extra performance i just can't go back to IL2. It's still on my hard-drive, but i haven't touched it once since installing CoD.
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