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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-06-2011, 09:36 PM
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I'm not american and I totally agree that if your interest is with ww2 aircombat then CloD is a gem!!
On the other hand take a hockey fan from US that lives and breethes hockey. You would think that he preferred NHL before KHL.

Also, from a more objective pov many western products aim at the american audience to ensure sales.
Another example: How come all brittish popstars wanna break in the US? Sales and worldfame!

In short, if 1C wants BIG revenue then they'll look to please american consumers. The european betatesting is a part of this. An addon with US planes (P-51 for sure) is prolly next.

Just saying...! Hope I'm wrong but they voted for Bush two times so...!
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:45 PM
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at least for virtual bomberpilots, yes, we exist , such ealry war scenarios (and the BoB is one) are much better.....the fighters are not these superhard hitting speedmonsters they become in later scenarios
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:18 AM
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i am glad they started with the BoB, would love to have seen Bof, but it really wasn't going to create the attention that the BoB does for sales. personally i start to lose interest in the airwar after 1943, nothing to do with the war it's self, just the sight of mustangs everywhere! The pacific doesn't really draw me either, again i think it's the aircraft types, and carriers. North Africa now that would be fantastic, huge variety of aircraft types, lots of oddballs, and types that really had no place being in a warzone

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Old 05-07-2011, 03:57 AM
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I undertand your thinking, but some other countries had been fighting the war for 2 years before America was involved, are we just to ignore that? TBH I couldnt give a flying f*#k if the pacific is ignored, apparently we aussies did stuff all there anyway! MacArthur was a turd and Blamey was his dung beetle and us Aussies suffered for it. Give me the Med anytime, pity Australia hasn't got the whining power of the USA.
Give me a P40 and a detailed New Guinea, SW Pacific map up through Dutch East Indies and the Celebees and as an Australian I'ld be as happy as a pig in brown stuff. Personally Im happy to wait a couple of years before our PC's have a hope of handling all the palm trees and shipping.

As an aside to our US brothers in arms, MacArthur has a fairly bad reputation over here for the way he conducted the New Guinea campaign. This in no way reflects apon the US servicemen that fought alongside the Australian troops.

After years of fighting up the north coast of NG many Australian servicemen were put out due to MacArthurs desire for making the retaking of the Philipines an American only event.

Many of our servicemen thought they were being waisted on costly mopping up opperations that had no strategic value to the war effort.

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Old 05-07-2011, 04:07 AM
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I like the Pacific theatre better , so much more brutal.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:18 AM
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I really would like to have a well done defense of the Reich sim. Proper massive blocks of B-17s and me flying a rickety Bf109 G6. Climbing up to 8000 metres and more. Heart thumping wondering if there's an escort. The world down below is tiny and far away, donning the oxygen mask and climbing up towards the rows and rows of contrails slicing through the cold blue sky. Going for the head on attack and then getting bounced by the P-47 escort.

For some reason I don't like the North African front so much. I think it's to do with the desert. Most combat sims I played growing up where in the desert, eg. F16 Fighting Falcon (1987), F117 etc. As the terrain is so featureless and lacking in colour it's easy to sim and boring to fly over. Even the camo skins are boring and bland. Yes I understand you'll get some great battles in the set up and Aussies, Kiwis South Africans, Canadians, Yanks, Italians etc etc all get a look in.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:59 AM
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As a starting point for a series only the BoB makes sense, regardless of the interest some folks here have in Poland, BoF or even the SCW. It's small enough speaking of map dimensions, aircraft and object pool and timeframe so this aspect doesn't pull too many development resources.

As for the discussion WRT national interests ... Is it really surprising that most people are interested in the wars their own country fought? I'm german so I give a rat's furry backside about the PTO and CBI and because of my particular interests I'm very much an Eastern Front and (because of similarities and the novelty of it) North African type of player. ETO with its standardized strategic air war leaves me cold as well but then I'm not so much into late-war überplanes.
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:02 AM
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honestly give em a accurate P-51D and some flyable b-17s and it will be a stampede
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:28 AM
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I don't care which the current scenario is as long as the next one is Korea .
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:40 AM
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I undertand your thinking, but some other countries had been fighting the war for 2 years before America was involved, are we just to ignore that? TBH I couldnt give a flying f*#k if the pacific is ignored, apparently we aussies did stuff all there anyway! MacArthur was a turd and Blamey was his dung beetle and us Aussies suffered for it. Give me the Med anytime, pity Australia hasn't got the whining power of the USA.
Brilliant
I love the Aussies,fantastic bunch and bloody hard aswell.I had the chance of serving with a few and they was as good as i had always believed them to be!!!

HERE HERE

BoB is the perfect starting point as said the future releases will have us waiting in hopefully the right order.

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