TM Warthog and CLOD

[Matt255]

I know that Warthog has dead zone settings - when you set them to 0, does it mean that it has absolutely no dead zone at all?

Yes. If you set deadzone to 0 and deactivate the hardware-deadzone (it's switchable in the TARGET software), you have absolutely NO deadzone AT ALL.

[AV8R_]

I too have finally moved from using my MS Sidewinder FFB Pro2 USB and even my Cougar FCC1 over to a WartHog set of controllers….

Glad I did it too.

The SW FFB Pro2 while having force feedback and precision flight controlling, it just didn't have the number of button and axes I needed. So I ended up playing the keyboard piano while at the same time trying to fly, manage CEM, TS3, etc.

Even my long standing Falcon4BMS favorite controller, the Thrustmaster Cougar with the Force Controlled Cougar version 1 mod was not precise enough for close up formation long range gunning. It was and still is perfect for FBMS or DCS-A10c, but just doesn't cut for IL2-COD.

So onto my question….
The mini-stick on the throttle doesn't seem to allow me to move the cursor very well at all in COD. Can someone who is using it successfully give me the details on how to do it please?

Thank you

[Hood]

Originally Posted by AV8R_

I too have finally moved from using my MS Sidewinder FFB Pro2 USB and even my Cougar FCC1 over to a WartHog set of controllers….

Glad I did it too.

The SW FFB Pro2 while having force feedback and precision flight controlling, it just didn't have the number of button and axes I needed. So I ended up playing the keyboard piano while at the same time trying to fly, manage CEM, TS3, etc.

Even my long standing Falcon4BMS favorite controller, the Thrustmaster Cougar with the Force Controlled Cougar version 1 mod was not precise enough for close up formation long range gunning. It was and still is perfect for FBMS or DCS-A10c, but just doesn't cut for IL2-COD.

So onto my question….
The mini-stick on the throttle doesn't seem to allow me to move the cursor very well at all in COD. Can someone who is using it successfully give me the details on how to do it please?

Thank you

Which mini stick? Do you mean the coolie hat switch that the left thumb uses, or the slew ultra mini-stick which is kinda like a tiny button inside a non-moveable hat switch (on the front face of the throttle controller)?

I may not be able to help when I know but I'll have a play to see what I find out.

Hood

[d.burnette]

I got my Warthog a few months ago, and really loved it. Getting DCS-A10C is really what prompted me to get it, and it really shines with it - but so far I am very pleased with it in my other sims, including CLoD. Prior to it, I had the TM Cougar which I had modded with the U2NXT gimbal mod and hall sensors. Also the Warthog comes stock, with hall sensors in both the stick and the throttle, which is really good.
The stick does have some resistance, certainly more than the NXT gimbal modded Cougar I was running, but not as much as the stock Cougar had. And the resistance is very consistant throughout the throw of the stick - I do not find it too much for dogfighting, at least not yet.
I am fairly new to getting into CLoD, so I am basically building my Target Profile for the Warthog on the fly as I go - I first assigned all the basic commands I knew I would need, then as I come across them that I think - I really need this on my stick or throttle - I just add it as I go. The Target software is very powerful in what you can do with it,
One thing that is different though regarding the assigning mouse function - in the Cougar, it was very easy through the programming to just assign the mouse to the microstick - very easy. Not so with the Warthog, at least not that I have seen, to assign it to say the slew control - requires some scripting that I have not delved into yet.

[ATAG_Snapper]

I did this simple mod which I found on Youtube to greatly lighten the stick centering force by removing the huge mainspring. It's not for everyone, since this makes the stick very light. It still self-centers.....but barely. Fortunately it's fully reversible, no seals are broken AFAIK, and it virtually eliminates the annoying center detent that can make precise aiming so difficult when zoomed in to 30 POV.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBMBR8M0z2E

[AV8R_]

@SNAPPER,

Interesting mod there, but a bit too hardcore for me. It took me a while to
even dare to mod my Cougar to FCC1, Im just stuck on keeping things "stock".
I have two corvettes, I have replaced things over the years, but never did one
non-stock mod to them. Im kinda like that. But good for you man.

Im still looking for what scripting or whatever it takes to make the ministick
able to move the mouse around instead of taking my hand off the control stick
to move the mouse on the mouse pad.

I would like to have you pass along to your squad a huge THANK YOU for
supplying us (Im in the II/JG53) with a first class MP RvB server to fly COD on.
How you guys got the ground target and a/c damage debrief going is fantastic.
My one tiny request is that the clouds be reduced or eliminated because it kills
the frame rate for us guys on older systems, especially when theres >50
players online. But again, thanks!

[d.burnette]

Thanks for the link Snapper - I had ran across that back when I first purchased the setup, and thought it looked interesting, but decided to just go ahead and run it stock for a while and see how it does. So far I seem to be pretty much at ease with it, but then again like you say I can see where it would benefit precision aiming, so when I get to the point I can do precision aiming I may want to give it a try