What kind of joystick for CoD ?

[Troll2k]

With all the new features more macros are probably going to be needed.

Belkin makes a nice device for such a purpose.
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPa...duct_Id=390404

[Azimech]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRExandas

You will need hotas

And rudder pedals thats all anthng else is waste of money !!

Depends. After years of flying with stick twist I still have problems with coordinating aileron and rudder if opposite directions are needed. Something I don't have with pedals.

[335th_GRExandas]

Originally Posted by Azimech

Depends. After years of flying with stick twist I still have problems with coordinating aileron and rudder if opposite directions are needed. Something I don't have with pedals.

That is my point also HOTAS and pedals ...

It might be a little bit difficult at the beginning but you get absolute immersion

[swiss]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

If you want to spend $100 or less then you are probably going to want to stick with Logitech. They seem to have the best quality control for the sub $100 line, which is more than I can say for their more expensive offerings.

If you want to go for $100-200 then you're going to have some more options and troubles. The X-52 line from Saitek is nice, but there are lots of issues with spiking and general crappiness in their quality control. If you decide to get an X-52 make sure you're close enough to the store to get it replaced (multiple times if needed). These sticks also have issues with wearing out after a year.

CH also offers some stuff in this price range, and they seem to be the guys with the best quality control, but you're also going to be getting something that looks like it hopped off the plane from 1993.

$300+ puts you into the G940 the X-62 and Warthog territory.

The G940 is the only hotas with a rudder and force feedback, but it still has a reversal bug on the rudder and the throttle, plus it has issues with overheating and shutting down after extended use (+1 hour of flying).

The X-62 is a force sensing stick that doesn't move. Better for modern sims like Falcon 4 and DSC A10. There isn't much out there on this since most people don't trust Saitek to make something worth this much money.

The Warthog is the top of the line, with metal parts, lots of buttons, and a pricetag to match. Some people have had issues with buttons on the throttle not working and DOA units.

should be made sticky.

[notafinger!]

Besides force feeback are there any major differences between Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 and Precision 2? In terms of precision/accuracy are they the same? How do they compare in accuracy to CH sticks? Thanks.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by notafinger!

Besides force feeback are there any major differences between Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 and Precision 2? In terms of precision/accuracy are they the same? How do they compare in accuracy to CH sticks? Thanks.

Both MS Stick do not work correctly under Win7-64, as the drivers are not supported under this OS anymore.
You only can choose between FFB effects OR centering force, but not both.
Alt+Tab ingame may lead to complete loss of feedback.

Sux.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by swiss

Both MS Stick do not work correctly under Win7-64, as the drivers are not supported under this OS anymore.
You only can choose between FFB effects OR centering force, but not both.
Alt+Tab ingame may lead to complete loss of feedback.

Sux.

I'm using my MS FF2 with Win7 64 and besides not having the configuration app, I haven't really experienced any such issues. It's just application controlled.

[Blackdog_kt]

I'm still using a microsoft precision pro 2 after more than 10 years.

I recently had some trouble with it so i gave it to a friend to tinker with. He added some adhesive tape between the base and the electronics plate to insulate it from possible short circuits if it touches the metal base, replaced 2-3 button switches that had died along the years and it works like new again, for the cost of buying my buddy a cup of coffee.

There is an amount of noticeable but very slight spiking near the center position after all these years, which results in the twist rudder axis spiking under certain aileron/elevator inputs, but it's so small and predictable that i subconsciously correct for it.
Also, the stick is a bit "floppy" around the center but that is not a problem either as i can use it as a sort of "trim": depending on the direction of torque in the aircraft i'm flying, i just move the stick a little bit to the side and it rests there. It's like having aileron trim for all aircraft and it allows me to fly most of them in cruise with only 2 fingers on the stick.

All in all, very minor issues as far as wear and tear is concerned.

Finally, i'm using it under Win7 x64 and it works fine. There's no force feedback on the precision pro 2, so i don't have any issues with it going floppy if it alt+tab out of the game because it's spring loaded. Also, the amount of buttons is not that great to require a separate piece of profiler software, i just map functions to them from within each game.

If someone wants a cheaper solution with a long life and you can get it for a good price on ebay, i definitely recommend it.

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRExandas

You will need hotas

And rudder pedals thats all anthng else is waste of money !!

If I'm not mistaken real spit and 109 pilots didnt have HOTAS controllers in the plane.
For realism you should use keyboard short cuts.

[Widowmaker214]

Well with what we spend on computers to run these things.. having a good hotas just makes sense. Plus it adds immensely to the immersion.

$4000 computer + $50 stick = Fail

logitech and saitek makes decent 'starter' hotas. They work but, well. The cheaper it is, the cheaper it is. Some of the newer logitech stuff looks pretty interesting.

CH products make pretty good stuff.

Rudder pedals is a no brainer IMHO. with newer games the USB pedals should be just fine. Though Im still partial to my game ported pedals on my cougar.

Thrustmaster is still the one to beat on quality and programability.

I just bought the U2NXT gimbals and hal sensors for my stick, rudder and throttle. Should be a beast when assembled. But uber expensive as well.

The thrustmaster warthog looks awesome. I still prefer the button layout on the cougar throttle, but having a split throttle will be great for twin engine planes. Price is high but we spend that or more on a good video card.

Now I just need a way to attach my second set of thrustmater rudders to go with a warthog. Going to keep my cougar for single engine aircraft and save up for a warthog for twins.

Whatever you get, just get more than a simple cheapo joystick.