How do you fit black knights into a full army?

[BB Shockwave]

Undead armies rock. I recently played through the Legend with one, so I can offer assistance.

Zombies stood in for the Black Knights until they are available, afterwards they will be your tanks. I see no fun going solo with any unit...

My line-up was: Bone Dragons (to be replaced with Greens in certain fights, like against other undead), Necromancers, Ancient Vampires, Black Knights, Cursed Ghosts/Skeleton archers. The latter two I switched sometimes, as tactics required it.

I also used Werewolves early on, and Black Unicrons in some anti-undead fights.

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

Do you KB Scan for all these first? And you can always upload the excel file anywhere.

I use the scanner primarily for Ancient Knowledge scrolls and other +XP items. Since I only play a campaign once (too little time to play) I can't leave to chance the existence (or lack thereof) of these items for a high score run.

In KBAP I didn't scan for these droid items as I didn't plan to take them from the get-go; I did scan for the Black Helmet and Eviln as I wanted to get Black Knights.

My KBAP unit evaluation Excel file in ZIP format attached; good thing ZIP is allowed here. As you can see, I called the repair droid "auto 1" and guard droid "auto 2" because I created this unit evaluation file even before I got my hands on KBAP.

[john_crapper]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

I use the scanner primarily for Ancient Knowledge scrolls and other +XP items. Since I only play a campaign once (too little time to play) I can't leave to chance the existence (or lack thereof) of these items for a high score run.

In KBAP I didn't scan for these droid items as I didn't plan to take them from the get-go; I did scan for the Black Helmet and Eviln as I wanted to get Black Knights.

My KBAP unit evaluation Excel file in ZIP format attached; good thing ZIP is allowed here. As you can see, I called the repair droid "auto 1" and guard droid "auto 2" because I created this unit evaluation file even before I got my hands on KBAP.

A legend would've been nice. Like what's LPL and why are some of the numbers blue/red/bald-ed. And what does the final score stand for.

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

(too little time to play)

Oh my Deity, If making such a spreadsheet just for the sake of statistical analysis is your idea of limited time to play, I pray you never go on a KB binge.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

A legend would've been nice. Like what's LPL and why are some of the numbers blue/red/bald-ed. And what does the final score stand for.



Oh my Deity, If making such a spreadsheet just for the sake of statistical analysis is your idea of limited time to play, I pray you never go on a KB binge.

Lore goes all out when he does play. He gave me a run down on the best places to use Ancient Knowledge scrolls.

I did a lot of homework when planning for my 100% Critical Ranged Warrior build. I don't know about an extensive spreadsheet though.

It is worth it when it comes together. Killing nearly every boss in Impossible in about 10 rounds (some in 4, some in 12) - No loss is what I call... fun.

After I win with my Impossible Mage build, I want to try out an Impossible Paladin build using heavy melee. Not sure if I will hit 0 losses though on that one.

[john_crapper]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Lore goes all out when he does play. He gave me a run down on the best places to use Ancient Knowledge scrolls.

And where might that be?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

And where might that be?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...ient+knowledge

Buried in the thread somewhere. I just did a search for Ancient Knowledge and remembered it was in my "I got 9 AKs!" thread.

[loreangelicus]

Hi ckdamascus! I actually did complete that game, and here's the link to the complete breakdown of that game:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=14756

I created that post so that other people would try for a high score too, and not be intimidated and be armed with the necessary information to actually do a pretty good run. I personally believe this is what this forum is for: to help each other do better and get more enjoyment from the game by pushing it to it's limits.

Lol, as for creating that file, remember that this was after KBTL but before the English version of KBAP was released; I had some free time to play, but no game to play. And sorry for having no legends, it was meant as a personally file. You already know DPL as damage per leadership, I thought it was not hard to decipher LPL as life per leadership. Granted, I myself don't remember what the purpose of that last unlabeled column was (something to do with representing LPL differently). The blue highlight is to tag a stat as decent enough, then blue in bold is better, then red is better than that, with red in bold as the best. Note, this is just a straight-up evaluation of damage and life, not counting other factors.

And besides, doing a no-loss high score run for a campaign as long as KBTL and KBAP takes a lot of time. So it's better to spend some time planning first and then take on the task and do a decent job, than run head-long into it and do a half-baked attempt that makes you want to do it again. Just like in real life.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Hi ckdamascus! I actually did complete that game, and here's the link to the complete breakdown of that game:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=14756

I created that post so that other people would try for a high score too, and not be intimidated and be armed with the necessary information to actually do a pretty good run. I personally believe this is what this forum is for: to help each other do better and get more enjoyment from the game by pushing it to it's limits.

Lol, as for creating that file, remember that this was after KBTL but before the English version of KBAP was released; I had some free time to play, but no game to play. And sorry for having no legends, it was meant as a personally file. You already know DPL as damage per leadership, I thought it was not hard to decipher LPL as life per leadership. Granted, I myself don't remember what the purpose of that last unlabeled column was (something to do with representing LPL differently).

And besides, doing a no-loss high score run for a campaign as long as KBTL and KBAP takes a lot of time. So it's better to spend some time planning first and then take on the task and do a decent job, than run head-long into it and do a half-baked attempt that makes you want to do it again. Just like in real life.

Ah yes, I remember that one. Fantastic job, by the way! I gave up on going for high scores, since everyone seems to have outdone me in some way. Just having fun with the new items and units. I hate super planning that far ahead of time or saving the heroes and stuff. It is sort of fun killing heroes that are higher level than you, but I didn't want to waste the Ancient Knowledge scroll prematurely.

I've won as a warrior and mage, but I never won as a paladin though, and now I'm not sure if I should.

I forgot that for my ultimate "melee monster team" I will need three weapons, and that means I have to pick warrior since there are no armor bearers who can hold two weapons. (Drill, Battle Axe, Ogre Club).

Ah well. So much for having the rune mages get a bonus due to my resurrection skill.

I suppose with that much melee the new "counterattack" ability is more worth while. I wonder how that works.

I wonder if the game manual is wrong; they mention Goblin Rakura as an armor bearer, yet NO ONE has mentioned him yet.

Aieee... I am sucked back into this evil game again.

[john_crapper]

Yeah, 4 months is really too much fpor me to drag a game. S'why I dont play a strict no-loss game, although I accept casualties only in special cases. I figure that your score is the current highest in crossworlds? Im aiming for a score above 1550. Considering the irritating amounts of time and pre-calculation and scanning it would otherwise take, Im ok with it. Actually I havent finished crossworlds yet, so what is a good above-average score for an Impossible game there?

Wow, Canoneers have 0,07 DPL. And peasants have 0,3

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

Yeah, 4 months is really too much fpor me to drag a game. S'why I dont play a strict no-loss game, although I accept casualties only in special cases. I figure that your score is the current highest in crossworlds? Im aiming for a score above 1550. Considering the irritating amounts of time and pre-calculation and scanning it would otherwise take, Im ok with it. Actually I havent finished crossworlds yet, so what is a good above-average score for an Impossible game there?

Wow, Canoneers have 0,07 DPL. And peasants have 0,3

Aside from limited game time it wasn't the no-loss that made it a long game to finish (droids and undead are very easy to no-loss); it was the constant reloading of battles just to get a chance of digging up Ancient Knowledge scrolls. I actually hate the idea of AK scrolls (I'm fine with +XP items), but you gotta do what you gotta do...

Correction: highest in KBAP, not Crossworlds. I haven't even fired up OotM yet, though I have finished DotC:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=16416&page=4

Currently looking at CotA.

Note that OotM has 7 additional quests and possibly more enemies (even added one more boss, the Kraken), so OotM high scores should be higher than comparable KBAP high scores.

Yup, canoneers are big pushovers if you don't consider their triple-shot ability. And peasants have been king of DPL since KBTL. Too bad I can't seem to find my KBTL evaluation spreadsheet; all level 5 units were pathetic then in terms of DPL and LPL.