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IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator.

View Poll Results: How long will Storm of War Rein as the Premier Flight Sim Platform?
0 to 5 years 10 7.14%
5+ to 10 years 62 44.29%
10+ to 15 years 52 37.14%
15+ to 20 years 7 5.00%
20+ to 30 years 2 1.43%
30+ to 40 years 0 0%
It'll become the 8th Wonder of The World and will essentially live forever. 7 5.00%
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:21 PM
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IL-2 won't die when SoW is out, there are patches still to come for it, with new content, bug fixes etc. So before SoW reaches the maturity and amount of content IL-2 has now, will take a couple of years minimum. Remember that the process of creating new planes and such for SoW is a slower process than in IL-2..if your read Oleg's interviews Until then IL-2 will still be a strong sim alongside with SoW.

If SoW will get regular updates and new content, it will for sure live for 10 years as there will be nothing to challenge it anytime soon. So we will basically have a few sims to play: RoF, SoW and IL-2 from WW1/2, DCS-series and Falcon for more modern stuff..and that is a lot during these days when sim industry is not the most popular.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:22 AM
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I don't think we can expect a new flight sim every 5 to 10 years. There hasn't been a new flight sim for the last ten years that could replace the IL-2 series. There are still no new flight sim developers on the horizon that are doing a WW2 sim. Therefore I believe the SOW series will dominate the WW2 combat flight sim market for atleast another 10 to 15 years and probably longer.

The ROF developers could come out with a WW2 combat flight sim in say 5 to 7 years, but currently they are way to busy completeing and improving their WW1 project.
WWII Sims are a niche, Imho is there room for only company.
I did, in my previous post, count SOW add ons as "new flight sims".
And we can expect a lot of add ons, every WWII Theater plus Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars, etcpp.

That is, of course, only if SOW doens't flop(economically).
If that happens we're screwed for at least 10-15yrs., till another company tries it with new a approach.


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IL-2 won't die when SoW is out, there are patches still to come for it, with new content, bug fixes etc. So before SoW reaches the maturity and amount of content IL-2 has now, will take a couple of years minimum. Remember that the process of creating new planes and such for SoW is a slower process than in IL-2..if your read Oleg's interviews Until then IL-2 will still be a strong sim alongside with SoW.
Sorry, I don't think so. Expect patches only till the release of SOW - once it's out I really don't expect any further patches. I'd be idiotic too - why should the modders spend their time with an obsolete game, while they could mod SOW?

The IL2 servers will be deserted.
And if there's no online community, a game is clinically dead.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:46 AM
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I see your point Swiss, but there is ONLY one scenario/map in SoW when released. It will grow old if nothing new is added as BoB has been done over and over again over the years. SoW is said to expand to Mediterranean etc. but do not expect that within months as after release there will for sure be patches fixing bugs etc. before anything new is added. And building these new scenarios is not just copy/paste exactly

Sure IL-2 community content creators will switch to SoW to make skins etc. but that alone does not desert IL-2 nor kill it. Not all sim nuts are lemmings and tube visioned
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:36 AM
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It will grow old if nothing new is added as BoB has been done over and over again over the years.
We've seen that happen with IL2 too...

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SoW is said to expand to Mediterranean etc.
If remember correctly, Luthier mentioned something about a Korean map in development.


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but do not expect that within months as after release there will for sure be patches fixing bugs etc. before anything new is added. And building these new scenarios is not just copy/paste exactly
How long do you think it will take you to handle the new flight model?


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but that alone does not desert IL-2 nor kill it.
Wanna bet?
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:12 PM
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5-10 Years or until Oleg dies of old age or abandons the game then hands it off to another developer who changes it and screws it all up....
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:12 AM
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I think it'll last a max of 10 years just because of the way computer development is headed, the more advanced a program you make, the easier it is to make an even more advanced program, also having entire company devoted to making trees, and another to making just buildings... thats where game development is headed, in the future it won't be one company that makes a game, it'll be a whole bunch of companys making all the different components for a game, then another company just sticks all those components together to make a game.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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25 years sound a bit too optimistic, it will be a spaceage in compareacenss to todays hardware and stuff. More likely 5-10 years lifespan, i doubt even World of Warcraft is alive in 25 years.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:00 PM
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25 years sound a bit too optimistic, it will be a spaceage in compareacenss to todays hardware and stuff. More likely 5-10 years lifespan, i doubt even World of Warcraft is alive in 25 years.
I think most people just don't remember how bad the sims(and graphics!) were 20 years ago.

Falcon F16 1988


Best Graphics at the time, 1993
(everybody went uuhhh and oohhh - look, snow on the hills!)
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:55 PM
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Progress in computer technology was much more dramatic in the 80ties and 90ties than
it is now, at least for gaming. PCs have matured since 1988. Just compare the
improvement in visuals made in 8 years between Aces of the Pacific (1992) and CFS 2
(2000). Eight years ago we had Il-2 just like today. Of course newer sims look much
better, but it's still competitive. There will be new SOW engine titles every few
years or so. Thus SOW engine will receive more updates to newer hardware than Il-2
and age more slowly than any sim before. If they redo all parts of WW2 with SOW
engine and later eras as Korea the platform will be kept up to date for at least 10
years and as we can see with titles FSX, Il-2 or Falcon 4.0 there is still lot of
potential in old sims abandoned by their makers.

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2000:
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:28 PM
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10 - 12,as IL2.
I believe Oleg will try to beat IL2 with SoW not only in graphics and gameplay,but with content too.And while the updates keep coming,nobody will stop playing it.After the project is over,some more 5 years,till something new comes out.

And IL2 will not die after SoW is released.I believe TD will still being working on the final patches,and after the work is gone,IL2 will be played till SoW haves the half of its content or even more.

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