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View Poll Results: How will you mostly play SoW?
offline/campaigns/full real 60 42.86%
offline/campaigns/ <full real 18 12.86%
offline/stock missions/full real 33 23.57%
offline/custom missions/<full real 24 17.14%
online/dogfights/full real 59 42.14%
online/dogfights/<full real 24 17.14%
online/COOPs/full real 47 33.57%
Online/COOPs/<full real 17 12.14%
online/campaigns/full real 64 45.71%
online/campaigns/<full real 19 13.57%
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Old 07-31-2010, 02:58 PM
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I didn't find a suitable option to choose in the poll so i didn't vote. I think i'll do what i did with IL2.

For offline and campaigns i keep the FM/DM settings at full real, but i enable external cameras and such for the "cinematic" feel and maybe icons/speedbar if i'm a bit bored and just want to have a quick skirmish against the AI.

For online, it is full real or almost full real depending on server settings. For example some may allow the speedbar while others only allow the compass read-out. In any case, i will fly on servers with full FM/DM settings, no icons and no external views, so that people can actually surprise and bounce each other.
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Old 07-31-2010, 08:52 PM
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+1...I will find it very interesting to fumble my start up procedure, while hearing the bases siren wail.
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I haven't voted, and I won't while it's not anonymous, why is it "public"?
just because I clicked too fast when my ritalin wore off sooner than expected.
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:14 AM
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just because I clicked too fast when my ritalin wore off sooner than expected.
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Cool.

Now it's an "I can't undo that" situation I suppose. <sigh>
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:03 PM
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Default well, I blew it on that

Igo,
I can't say much more than I'm really sorry the poll settings didn't suit you. I don't fully understand why it's important to remain anonymous. Is there something at risk I should be aware of? Other than knowing who voted which way on the poll (I only looked today) I saw no evil in knowing. What is the principle behind securing anonymity? Many have written their reasons for selecting their preferences in their replies.

On another note, a brief look at the results to date seem to indicate that a lot of people will enjoy SoW_BoB in many different flavors. If nothing else, it's very encouraging seeing the selections folks are making. If the sim offers similar options as IL2 for playability, people seem to think there is something for everyone. It's all good! But of particular interest, more people (so far) seem to lean towards full real, be it online, or off line, dogfights, COOPs, custom (and stock) missions, and campaigns. I like that!
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:18 AM
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he must really take rush music to heart, if you don't know what i mean, look up the song "freewill" by rush
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:39 PM
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Biased sample

The majority of Il2 players play offline and never come to forums.

There is an over-representation of online players on online forums because online players tend to usually be online more often than offline players
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:02 AM
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Well, that's not true in my case as 99% of my IL-2 time is offline. This is a bit skewed by certain ISP troubles (that is, i can't fly online as often as i would like to), but even before that i was still a mainly online player.

Forums and such are a great way to collect information, learn things and follow upcoming developments but being a frequent poster in one doesn't make me a frequent online flyer

For me, the main issue with online flying is time constraints and commitment. I dislike having to leave in the middle of a mission or even worse, in the middle of a combat situation. So, if i am to be flying online i need to be absolutely sure that i won't be having any interruptions during my sorties.

I'm no hot-shot but i don't mind losing as long as the match is good, i learn something new or see something impressive, or i plain manage to help my team in accomplishing mission objectives regardless of my K/D ratios and survival rates, i have found servers that suit my difficulty/realism preferences, have nice missions in the rotation and are populated by a nice crowd of flight simmers. It's just that all too often i want to know that i can quit the simulator mid-flight without it reflecting negatively on someone else's gameplay experience, so i mostly stick to offline flying.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:15 AM
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The majority of Il2 players play offline and never come to forums.

There is an over-representation of online players on online forums because online players tend to usually be online more often than offline players
How can you say that? I don't understand. How does it follow that offline (IL2) players don't visit online forums as much as online (IL2) players do. Just because a player does not fly online in no way implies that he or she does not get online to visit and/or participate in forums like these any less so. Well, that's my opinion (so I suppose I should grant that you have your opinion too).
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How can you say that? I don't understand. How does it follow that offline (IL2) players don't visit online forums as much as online (IL2) players do. Just because a player does not fly online in no way implies that he or she does not get online to visit and/or participate in forums like these any less so. Well, that's my opinion (so I suppose I should grant that you have your opinion too).
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Well, looking at the facts it's more obvious that offline players represents the majority of the install base within almost all games, especially realistic once.
That is about to change more and more though and have changed a lot within casual gaming the last 5 years.. anyway..

A player is more likely to participate in discussions and the community if he/she is a regular online player, fan of the game and a regular internet user.
Many folks who play don't really go online, they might not even have the knowledge/care? that these kinda communities and boards exists or wouldn't take their time to bother.

Many here maybe prefer Single Player and/or are offline players, but at least you're above the average joe who might have never even touched MP.
They are casual hardcore gamers if that makes any sense lol... i know plenty of folks who play and prefer simulators but don't hang around boards or such.
They buy the games and play em... simple as that.

(I am looking at the big picture here and it works the same with any community really)

Even looking at Call of Duty, Battlefield which has huge online communities, it's nothing compared to all the "uber" mainstream guys that just buys it of the shelves.
It's those guys who are responsible for the majority of the sales. I believe that maybe within another 10 years, technology, games and the internet will be a lot more accepted
thus, even getting the none gamers to realize things.

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