CheeseTactics

[BRIGGBOY]

Originally Posted by branko57

HI BRIGGBOY,

THANKS FOR THE WEBSITE LINK, LOOK WHAT I HAVE FOUND........ used by special fighters for attacks against the giant American bomber formations.

YOUR ROCKET ATTACK'S ON ME YESTERDAY THEY FAILED AND THEY WERE UNNECESSARY, ANYWAY I ENJOYED PLAYING WITH YOU !!!

the fact of the matter is that they were used and i think that people taking a b17 into a dogfight or tb match is totally unnecessary so like i said before if someone gets shotdown by rockets then i think it is the same as just sitting on the rear gunner in dogfight or tb. but also like many people have said before it is a video game and not real life so it is meant to be fun. anyway thats all i have to say on this subject and bailing out or i will have to see my doctor about some valium.

[ORPHEUS ZERO]

Please excuse my interjection on this one. There are several obstacles here to contend with that I can see.
1) temperment- We all get flustered when someone shoots at us. A psychological occurance that is welcome to your opponent. It is much easier to take down an enemy who is not thinking clearly than one who has maintained his calm. Your opponent WILL use this against you.
2)rockets (adavantage)- all technological advantages in warfare are infact unfair, therfore there is no such thing as a fair fight. Wether in terms of technology, performance charicterisics, or skill; someone will be at a disadvantage. That being said; it is most often the case that in order to gain an advantage one must trade-off for a disadvantage in another area. Ie: altitude/speed, armor/agility, or speed/turn radius etc.

This leads to but one conclusion! Change tactics! I have personally dogdged many 40mm rockets. If fired close they are hard to miss with you say? Well then keep the shooter at a distance. I'd the rocket chucking anti-historian and see to it he has a very hard persuit. If he gets close...evade. Those rockets drop like stones and are much slower than bullets. Or fly a fighter.

Bottom line if you find yourself full of holes...you made at least one mistake too many. The flaw is always in your tactics if you loose. To paraphrase Sun Tsu- battles are not won by the victor...they are lost by the defeated.

Try and keep a cool head man, and I promise you'll find your victory! Good luck, good hunting, & God speed!

[Gilly]

Let's all just chill and be cool like Alaska. There's been some heated discussions on here over the past week and I hope most people will take them for, and respect them as peoples opinions. The last thing the community needs is to fragment and implode. I think most players know and respect that we all have our personal preferences when it comes to armourment and as the game allows you to, you should be able to use whatever, whenever irrespective of other people views and opinions. I guess what I'm saying is that no matter how much we write on here about our likes/ dislikes there will always be players that go against our 'IL2 morals' and as such disagree with us. I had a real red mist event earlier this week that was totally out of character and left me feeling quite down about the game, but I think Ratman summed it up nicely when he said to me 'rise above it, just play the way you play and be happy in the knowledge that your a better person than them for doing so'
I think to sum up we should all play exactly the way we want to play, be that right or wrong and remember it's just a game, 70 years ago it was real life and many good people died doing what we now consider to be just a game. Be thankful that after being rammed, rocketed, bombed or shot down you only have to wait a few seconds before you resurect and continue, back then there were no second chances. It's due to that generation that we now have the freedom to play such games and I think we shouldn't forget that.

[bobbysocks]

new forum rules. all disputes will be decided by fish at 10 paces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp...eature=related

who wants cheese when you can have chocolates....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

[Shadowcorp]

branko people are allowed to use rockets in BoP, its not the second world war; it's a computer game that includes aircraft that carry bombs and rockets, as such people are allowed to utilise whatever aircraft and load out they wish rockets and in your case turret gun bombers that need a rocket strike to take them out. At least rockets are forward firing.
I hit a fighter at 1600 ft with a rocket yesturday so it is possible albeit hard to do.
I hope that this thread gets shut down as i'm sick of irrational attacks on the use of rockets in what is very clearly a computer game and not world war 2.

[dkwookie]

Originally Posted by Shadowcorp

branko people are allowed to use rockets in BoP, its not the second world war; it's a computer game that includes aircraft that carry bombs and rockets, as such people are allowed to utilise whatever aircraft and load out they wish rockets and in your case turret gun bombers that need a rocket strike to take them out. At least rockets are forward firing.
I hit a fighter at 1600 ft with a rocket yesturday so it is possible albeit hard to do.
I hope that this thread gets shut down as i'm sick of irrational attacks on the use of rockets in what is very clearly a computer game and not world war 2.

I just cant agree here. If I realise someone is on my tail in a fight and they are using guns, I have a chance to evade and engage in a dogfight with him. With rockets more often than not the first you know they are on your tail is when you explode. No chance of engaging, no chance of evading, just instant death. Same with a head on run. If its two planes with guns it becomes a joust, with one plane carrying rockets it becomes the charge of the light brigade.

If someone is in a bomber I don't need to worry about them sneaking up behind and getting an instant kill or I can choose to ignore the bomber if I wish. If I want to engage the bomber I wont attack it from its 6, I will use a high energy dive on its roof.

[Gilly]

I just wish to state that I do not have any issue with rockets per se. If rockets are your bag then get stuck in. What I do have an issue with, and why I originally posted, was the team killing. All this served to demonstrate was the fact that the player firing them had serious issues to want to shoot team mates. I deliberately did not name names in my original post as I just wished to gauge opinion as to what I had observed. Sadly though it got blown out of propotion and led to myself and many other players recieving abuse from the player involved. All this leads me to believe that there are issues outside of this game that perhaps they need to deal with. I would never consider lowering myself to that level and personally abusing them on this forum as most, save for one, are decent, respectful players of the game. I'll do my talking in the air.

I would also like to invite any player who has any issue with me to here and now state as such. I personally believe I try and play this game within the spirit in which it is meant but I have been called a hypocrite by one particular player and would like to know if indeed this is the case or whether it's just sour grapes. I am aware of many of your thoughts already as you have emailed me or messaged me via the psn network and I appreciate your honesty and comments.
Thanks,
a rather pissed off Gilly

[dkwookie]

Gilly in all the games I have played with you I have never seen anything to suggest you are anything but a fair and valued player.

To me these arguments flair up due to the shrinking community. We have fewer targets and kill each other multiple times per match, which leads to frustration as we are all vets and some don't like being shot. We take the game perhaps more seriously than we should but that's because we love the game and it's subject matter.

I don't agree with rockets air to air use, some don't mind. The game let's them be used for air to air so as has been said, if players want to use them so be it.
But these fall outs always seem to stem from rocket use. I havnt seen any arguments amongst players about being gunned down

[KAV]

This game has several options.
One of them is to join a game session, or not.
Before one choose to join a game session, one has to join a lobby.
Attending the lobby, one can see the settings for the session and other players who has joined the session.
If the settings for the session, or the players are not to your likings, one have the option to leave the game.

For those who are not able to either hear or read messages of sessions settings, or in other ways insist to obstruct other players private sessions and games, please stop doing so.
To those who has issues with other gamers, stop joining their games.

Fly in peace, and enjoy BoP.

[bobbysocks]

Do you get e-mail/posting rage?
By Nance Guilmartin, CareerBuilder.com
May 3, 2010 -- Updated 1312 GMT (2112 HKT)

When was the last time you were driving down the digital highway and felt like you were shot by words?

It happens without warning. You're scanning e-mails or a posting and suddenly you're triggered by someone's words or a tone you sense -- or even see; the e-mail/post is filled with "ALL CAPS" or "Exclamation points!!!" or bold formatting.

Or, here's another hot button: You're in the midst of a public "drive by" e-mail attack, where out of the blue, someone writes an e-mail (without speaking to you first to check their assumptions) and reacts to something you said in a meeting or that you wrote or did. When you see the long list of CC-ed recipients you become furious and shoot back your own defense or offense.

Why does this happen?

Today we're more wired to snap -- especially when using computer keyboards. There's even a physiological trigger pulling us into e-mail shootouts; it's called "e-mail apnea."

Thought leader Linda Stone, formerly of Microsoft and Apple computers, coined the phrase after researching a phenomenon she observed while people were under the influence of computing. The urge to quickly react (without considering what you or they may have misunderstood) can affect you -- whether you are the person sending the initial e-mail or the one who receives it.

Stone noticed we hold our breath while cranking out e-mails and doctors confirmed her suspicions. When we hold our breath, the brain is momentarily oxygen deprived and hits the flight or fight response, fueling a more emotional reaction to the words shooting out of our fingers.

What can seem like innocent or understandable venting can cost you your job, damage your reputation and crater your chances for promotion. According to a recent USA Today article by Laura Petrecca, 26 percent of the nearly 600 companies participating in a 2009 Electronic Business Communications Politics and Procedures Survey said they'd fired an employee for e-mail misuse.

What can you do to avoid getting caught up in a drive-by e-mail? Here are five ways to make a U-turn when the inevitable "missed understanding" happens.

Before you fire off that e-mail, try these tips:

Back away from the computer

Resisting the urge to just "let someone have it" is a sign of self-control and adds points to your reputation. You also raise what I call your "CQ score" of communication intelligence by responding versus reacting.

We all need to vent, and e-mail is an instant venting machine. Just don't set yourself up to be fired by what you write when you're fired up about something. Write it, delete it or park it in your draft box.

Vent offline

Ask someone to (confidentially) give you perspective that you can't see when you're blindsided or when you're positive you're right and someone else is wrong. You might be right and win the battle but lose the war. The damage, however, isn't easily undone once you hit the send button.

Give people the benefit of the doubt

We often assume we know what someone meant or intended. I call that "assumitis." Instead, rephrase it (in person or via e-mail) using your own words. For example, "It sounds like what you are saying..." or "Let me see if I follow what seems to be the problem here." You'll learn more and increase your CQ as well as your ability to be more responsive and less reactive by surfacing what's between the lines (without instantly explaining or defending yourself).

Adopt a get curious outlook

Ask, "What am I really reacting to? What's driving the other person to do this?" Then call or go see them in person. Begin by appreciating how easy it is to be misunderstood. Acknowledge that aggravations can pile up and trigger an e-mail volley that leaves a trail that can cost you both long after you wished you'd paused to ask yourself, "What don't I know I don't know?"

You're more valuable to your clients and your company when your high CQ skills turn you into a problem solver and time saver in a world where time and relationships are priceless.