Il 2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey-Game vs reality!!!

[TonyPilot]

What to do with it. I love this game and simulation games in general;
but not these games do not lend themselves to criticism, weaknesses to
improve them by analize.

[mdbuehler]

Originally Posted by TonyPilot

I think, anyway, that is more easy to drive a "real" car, bike, motorcycle or airplane ...whatever you want, that the "counterpart" in an "unnecessarily hyper-simulative" game!

Like others said, it just doesn't "translate" completely from the real world into a video game. That, and despite what you see on the screen, what you are doing really has about zero in common with the "real thing" . I raced motorcycles for years, but struggled a lot with on-bike Motogp / same with cars and karts but Forza was a trick too. You get none of the tactile input when you play a game, not to mention no peripheral vision, g sensations, sense of location in space, etc.

Force feed back, those head tracking sets etc are closing the gap, but until a a driver / rider / pilot can sit down at the console and not miss a beat transitioning, we'll have to live with the compromises.

That said, this game by far is the closest to real flying of any I've played on a console! Love the fact you don't fly circles forever chasing each other like in BF1942

[fritzwendel]

I usually change my trim settings when I change my speed; I think the trim changes when your speed changes, hence a need to adjust.

Maybe this isn't the case, but it seems to work for me.

I just wish the game had red out/black out, instead of the annoying "stall" warning in realistic. You can gauge the severity of a maneuver with the red/blackout happening to your screen, but that "stall" warning pops up if you are just getting heavy on the stick, even if the maneuver isn't going to end in a stall.

Other than that, I like the challenge the game presents, given the limits the controller puts on the sim experience.

Maybe you should look up "storm of war"; from what you've posted, that game will probably cater to your needs better when it comes out.

For me, the minor gripes pale in comparison to what this game delivers.

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by TonyPilot

What to do with it. I love this game and simulation games in general;
but not these games do not lend themselves to criticism, weaknesses to
improve them by analize.

I'm generally ok at understanding people, even if they don't use correct grammar, but I can't make a whole lot of this. Are you trying to say that IL2 doesn't handle criticism well? In that case, take a better look at the forum, lots of people criticizing, and something's actually done about it.

[akuma]

I agree that sim mode is way too bouncy for my liking and to simulate real flight.

I've had a few trial lessons both in light aircraft and helicopters, I also have 15 hours in gliders so I have a reasonable idea about what it takes to fly real planes without calling myself a pilot as that would be a stretch.

That said I do like sim mode as it takes away the big cheat arrows and pad locks.

[GabeFan]

Originally Posted by akuma

That said I do like sim mode as it takes away the big cheat arrows...

Fully disabling the HUD in arcade mode should get rid of the "cheat arrows" too, I think...