Ah Well.....

[Tavingon]

Hopefully a genious will be allowed to unlock these, maybe a modder? Need to fly the defiant and wellington, or feel the sugar coated rush of landing on the water in a prehistoric walrus aircraft..

[ATAG_Dutch]

P.S. I'd lay bets on the Dorniers being made flyable for BfM. The 109F will appear.

I just hope that of the two Russian fighters made available for BfM, one of the variants of them has vastly superior performance to the 109F.

Naah, scratch that, no-one would be allowed to fly it.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by atag_dutch

naah, scratch that, no-one would be allowed to fly it.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Naah, scratch that, no-one would be allowed to fly it.

Quoted for truth.

On this subject, I don't see how the developers would be able to get away with only 2 Russian fighters and have the sim be successful in their primary market.

So I am hopeful that I will get my P40B or P40C (Tomahawk I~II).

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Tavingon

Hopefully a genious will be allowed to unlock these, maybe a modder? Need to fly the defiant and wellington, or feel the sugar coated rush of landing on the water in a prehistoric walrus aircraft..

The problem will be the cockpits and crew stations. Like all the models in the new series, they are several orders of magnitude more complex than the ones in IL2/46. Frankly I don't think any of the modders that I know of have the skills to bang these out in less than a year, per aircraft.

Look at the B24 that is being built by Monguse and Co. for 46. It has taken over a year and a half, at least, and it's interior spaces, while state of the art for IL2, are no where near what we have right now in CloD.

The new sim brings a new paradigm, and we had all better get used to it, that is, fewer, but more highly detailed, aircraft.

[Tavingon]

If there really are two soviet planes planned, I'm guessing MIG 3 and the IL2?

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Tavingon

If there really are two soviet planes planned, I'm guessing MIG 3 and the IL2?

I've no idea mate, I was being kinda facetious as there are only two red fighters in 'Cliffs' and one bomber, as against erm,, well a lot more blue a/c.

The IL2 will definately be there, and if I'm honest it'll be nice to get back in one. As to fighters, who knows? But if the I-16 is there I'll be happy.

What am I saying?? I'm supposed to be upset at them dumping object development for 'Cliffs'!!

[JG52Krupi]

Well, we know the La5, il2 are definately there from the images we have been shown...

We can expect mig 3, lagg 3, I 16, I 153, P-39 and P-40 for fighters and a smattering of various bombers...

That's my guess for the reds.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Well, we know the La5, il2 are definately there from the images we have been shown...

We can expect mig 3, lagg 3, I 16, I 153, P-39 and P-40 for fighters and a smattering of various bombers...

That's my guess for the reds.

Don't think there'll be that many to start with Krups, and I find it strange that the La5 has already been hinted at, as it was in development at the time of the Battle for Moscow from what I've read.

'The design work required to adapt the LaGG-3 to the new engine and still maintain the aircraft's balance was undertaken by Lavochkin in a small hut beside an airfield over the winter of 1941-1942, all completely unofficially'.

'The Battle of Moscow (Битва под Москвой, Romanized: Bitva pod Moskvoy, German: Schlacht um Moskau) is the name given by Soviet historians to two periods of strategically significant fighting on a 600 km (370 mi) sector of the Eastern Front during World War II. It took place between October 1941 and January 1942'


Both from wikipedia unfortunately.


@Cheesehawk - you may be correct there mate, it wasn't flyable in 1946 either was it?

[ElAurens]

Should not see the La5, P39 or FW 190 in this scenario.

The only US made aircraft would be Curtiss P40 B and C models.

There should be Mig3s for the PVO.

Yak 1s as well as the IL2 of course.

And lots of Polikarpovs of all descriptions.