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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-15-2012, 04:42 AM
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I've always made a point of pre-ordering installments of the Il-2 and gone out of my way to ensure I get my copy on the first day of release. I won't be doing this with BoM though. I've only got a finite amount of cash to spend on this hobby and I need to ensure that the money goes to the most deserving team. Maddox Games is no longer it, unfortunately. They can keep any demo. I'll wait for the sales.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:26 AM
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Sorry, I'm waiting for the reviews. This forum will have many who will say it is magnificent even if it is an unmitigated disaster. And perhaps that it is a disaster when it is not.
Well, it has a true point. But even if I make myself unpopular with the next sentence: I´ve seen so many people complaining about how unplayable CloD is, and the funny thing is, those people weren´t even able to play the old Il-2 1946 with full settings.
And I never had real problems with this game (performance wise), off course, the sound was, well not so nice, the communications are still...well, shit...(if you have old Il-2 in mind, which communication system they simply could have used for CloD if they´re unable to make a new one.), but in terms of performance, I was always above 30 to 40 fps. I´ve had about maybe 3 to 4 Launcher.exe crashes, and the only time, the game went slightly unplayable, was with one of the earlier beta patches, when flying over London.

So my personal opinion is: If a sequel for this game comes out, I will buy it, because it can´t be worse than CloD is at the moment. And I will tell you the reasons I will buy it the first day I get my hands on it.
1.) I love the original Il-2
2.) I enjoy CloD very much, even it is not at it´s full potential.
and finaly 3.) I think, we all want a new Il-2 which goes the same way as the old one, but only better. But we only get this, if we support the developers. And I think we should support them, because I don´t see much alternative developers for a WW 2 flight sim.

But off course, a demo would be fantastic. 10 years ago, we´ve got demos for every ... game, even on CD or then DVD of the gamer magazines. Now, you have to beg for something like it, and in most cases won´t get it.
Maybe the game developers don´t want us to test their product anymore before buying it. But anyway, we only rent the software so...
(The same applies for manuals, 10 to 15 years ago, we got a game for 100 DM (about 50€ today), and got a manual with about 100 to 400 pages! Today, we pay the same, well, due to inflation I think even more, and we get a leaflet with 14 pages.

But miracles still happen... xD

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Old 09-15-2012, 06:58 AM
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Maybe the game developers don´t want us to test their product anymore before buying it.
+1 even if some devs have trust in their products (i.e. F1 2012) and try this way to stimulate new users or bored one!
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:17 AM
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I for one will not be expecting a demo for BOM. I'm very much looking forward to the release though. I really don't think that pre-orders matter very much to them either, so I won't bother to do so. The shots of the Russian map that we viewed where beautiful to me. Smolensk, Kiev unknown but they looked great!!...as a side note, yesterday I realized that the individual land vehicles are capable of speed adjustment. This should be very useful for historical mission design
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:32 AM
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why free demo when you can get money for beta ? ...it worked with CoD so ...

we are all addicted and we don't have any real alternative ( WW II ) so we will take any bone they throw at us .

As for me goes , i will buy BoM as soon as hard copy comes to my part of the World ( but not directly from Steam) . In the meantime i will get first torrent i spot just because of my addiction/impatience to try it ASAP .

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Old 09-15-2012, 09:46 AM
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How about a working CLoD demo before we all wax lyrical about BoM??
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:02 AM
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How about a working CLoD demo before we all wax lyrical about BoM??
Agreed

What they say about us having to buy their product again to fix the original, is 100% bullshit.

We know it, and they know it.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:19 AM
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Considering the last declarations, IMHO it will be nice if a sort of "demo" will be available, at least for ClOD users.

My "fear" is the BoM will be exactly as the latest ClOD release with more contents, while a demo release could be a good method to improve users' trust in IL2 series and continue to support it.
I've never installed a demo on top of another demo. This will be one for the books!
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:06 AM
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Considering the last declarations, IMHO it will be nice if a sort of "demo" will be available, at least for ClOD users.

My "fear" is the BoM will be exactly as the latest ClOD release with more contents, while a demo release could be a good method to improve users' trust in IL2 series and continue to support it.
the demo question was asked in the lead-up to CoD

the answer at the time was that it would take to much effort to create as a separate item, and would take to many man hrs which they were very short on.

i suspect the answer will still be the same right now for BoM
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:42 AM
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I paid A$100 for CLOD and was happy to pay that, or even more to get a quality BOB sim. Ok we have problems, we all know the story but I'm still happy to pay $50+ for BOM if it gives more aircraft and fixes. I'm enjoying, the limited scope of what CLOD has delievered. Only up from here!

The demo i can take or leave, lets just hope it doesn't turn me off! (backfire)

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