The silence is deafening...

[addman]

Originally Posted by Ataros

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.

Good that you clarified this once again Ataros, everybody plz try to understand this ones and for all! Just try! This is 1c forum, 1c has nothing to do with the publishing of CloD outside of Russia.

[albx]

everybody!! go to hammering the ubizoo forum

[carguy_]

Finally some thinking.

All non Russian buyers please go http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8071032709

[Anvilfolk]

Hey, Jockey, what part of "too much negativity" making Luthier not bother with the community did you not understand? Vicious cycle, the way I see it.

[{dz}]

i think luthier may have a hangover from the 1c Russian Consulate Party ...looks like the vodka was free

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ru...company/717528

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. The same happened at sukhoi.ru forums back in 2002 when Oleg stopped posting there after discussion became negative instead of constructive.

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed by you for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.

That would be a terrible loss in my opinion, and frankly the dev team need to grow a much thicker skin if that really is the case. The raging we've seen on this forum is nothing compared to the great majority of other game forums, where opinions tend to be even more polarised and antagonistic, often outright insulting. If you can't take the heat, you shouldn't be in the kitchen - they must have known what kind of response the game would receive in the early stages and prepared themselves for that. To drop communication now because a few idiots have been a bit nasty to them would be childish, irresponsible and insulting to the people who've paid for the game.

And, as another poster mentioned, not communicating because your players are angry just makes them even more angry, so it becomes a vicious circle that will only end when you grow some balls and take the criticism - which, had you communicated in the first place, probably wouldn't be as bad.


Another point - yes, 1C are the Russian publisher, and we know Ubi are responsible for international publishing and distribution.

However - we come here because it is the best way of getting information straight from the people making the game, and because Sukhoi.ru is inaccessible for many of us due to the language barrier. If Luthier & the team posted on the Ubi forums, I expect most of us would be there instead. The only beta patch links posted on the Ubi forums that I can see have been users linking to this forum, not dev posts - so for now the Ubi forums are 'useful' only for user chat about the game, not finding out actual info on progress or other technical issues. If the dev team stop posting here too, the game will die off completely - as very few will be willing to wait in the dark for the myriad technical bugs and problems to be fixed, not knowing if a fix will even happen.

When/if the US release hits this weekend, we're going to see the moaning increase tenfold as they go through all the same crap we've had since release. If the dev team couldn't cope with the 'negativity' before now, come Monday it'll be ten times worse.

From a personal standpoint, if the devs do act like children and refuse to provide at least some information on their progress, I for one will never play CloD again - because to release a game in this state, followed by several patches that in most cases break as much as they fix (if user reports are accurate), and then to just clam up because people are angry is the very height of stupidity and arrogance. I'll have no dealings with a company that refuses to communicate with its customers, or one that slinks off and hides when the going gets tough - especially when the problems are almost entirely of their own making.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by {dz}

i think luthier may have a hangover from the 1c Russian Consulate Party ...looks like the vodka was free

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ru...company/717528

Can you tell me where i get my hands on the yellow things please?

[Walrus1]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. .

That's a lame excuse, if true.

There are obviously quite a few outspoken whiners, but also at least as many hardcore supporters who lavish praise when due.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

From a personal standpoint, if the devs do act like children and refuse to provide at least some information on their progress, I for one will never play CloD again

The nature of "cildishness" is debateable. One could argue that not communicationg with the customer base is childish, on th eother hand one could argue that demaning communication from the producers is equally so. Moderation and middel of the road seem to be the golden rule for both sides.

[philip.ed]

Here we go again....

...people are entitled to their own opinions; if it's negative it's negative. Luthier's a big boy; I'm sure he can handle the negativity. He's already said that it was to be expected from the state of the release.