Cliffs of Dover in 3D

[Les]

This is interesting, I've been waiting for years for decent projectors to become affordable. I'm not fussed about the 3D features, but I would like to be able to project big enough to fill at least half a wall with a good sharp high resolution image.

In the past I've tested out IL-2 projected onto a wall and it was great, but the resolution wasn't there, and come to think of it, I'm not sure the in-game textures would have held up to being shown that big even if the projector didn't blur them. The way I had it set up, the widest in-cockpit view was life-size 1:1 scale and I was sitting as far away from the instrument panel as you would be in real life. It was the first time I realized how huge the clouds are in IL-2, flying through them and looking at them in external view like that.

The only other thing is that projectors are notorious for the short life-span of their ridiculously expensive globes. Any info on price and life-expectancy of the globes your projector uses?

[Koyan]

Originally Posted by Shtopor

Here is a youtube video of ACer in 2D 120Hz refresh rate:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...79&FORM=VIRE1#

Now all he needs is a chair to keep him and the steering wheel in sinc with the car (wobbling)

[Shtopor]

Bulb life expectancy is 3000 hours in full mode and 4000 hours in eco mode ( a bit dimmer
but good for 2d). Bulb cost 80 - 100 bucks.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Les

This is interesting, I've been waiting for years for decent projectors to become affordable. I'm not fussed about the 3D features, but I would like to be able to project big enough to fill at least half a wall with a good sharp high resolution image.

In the past I've tested out IL-2 projected onto a wall and it was great, but the resolution wasn't there, and come to think of it, I'm not sure the in-game textures would have held up to being shown that big even if the projector didn't blur them. The way I had it set up, the widest in-cockpit view was life-size 1:1 scale and I was sitting as far away from the instrument panel as you would be in real life. It was the first time I realized how huge the clouds are in IL-2, flying through them and looking at them in external view like that.

The only other thing is that projectors are notorious for the short life-span of their ridiculously expensive globes. Any info on price and life-expectancy of the globes your projector uses?

or if you want to have some real fun...build your own
http://lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15796

[Les]

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball

or if you want to have some real fun...build your own
http://lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15796

lol, that's what I did.

Thanks for the info Shtopor. Depending on your usage, the price of those globes over time could be quite reasonable.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Les

lol, that's what I did.

Thanks for the info Shtopor. Depending on your usage, the price of those globes over time could be quite reasonable.

you built a 100 inch wide 1080P hidef projector? do you have pics? and why do you not use it anymore?

[RaM85]

[QUOTE=Shtopor;232589]Guys I am not bragging or trying to sell you anything, all I did was to tell you that QUALITY 3D is AFFORDABLE.
here is my expencess:
Acer projector - 500
screen - 250
projector mount (ceiling in my case) - 50
iz3d driver - 20 (for ATI card owners)
glasses - 60 (+ shipping)


Very interesting. How is it to play with 3d glasses and track ir altogether?
I thought that the inevitable rotation of the head would let the glasses be less effective or give you distorted images (unless you set your track ir on super sensitive mode)..

[Les]

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball

you built a 100 inch wide 1080P hidef projector? do you have pics? and why do you not use it anymore?

I built one very similar to the one in the thread you linked to, at about the same time that Lumenlab scene was peaking. Same basic lenses, same resolution 15" LCD (Benq brand though), same basic wooden construction, with a slightly different globe and inner workings.

I just made it to see if I could, and it worked out quite well, as good as any of the others I'd seen there. But I don't watch TV or DVD's much (don't even have a TV), and I found the resolution lacking (for gaming) when projecting the image as large as I wanted it. The sense of scale was amazing, but the in-game objects were just a bit too blurry at that resolution when combined with how close I wanted to sit to the screen.

In practical terms too, ending up with such a large box of a projector, it has to become a major feature of the space you put it in, and I was never really comfortable with that, preferring something smaller and more portable. That would be the main reason I don't use it much, it's just a hassle moving it around and I didn't want to leave it set up in one place.

The kind of projectors Shtopor linked to were worth over a couple of grand (for even more basic versions) back when I made mine so it's good to see they've become (arguably) affordable. However, thinking about it further, I still think I'd prefer something with a higher resolution. But only because I want to project an image about eight feet high and sit about three feet from the screen and get totally immersed in it.

Like with mine, when projecting smaller or sitting further away, the resolution these things put out definitely makes them worth considering. And indeed, the 3D probably is unbelievable. It'd have to be, considering how amazing it is projecting a regular image that big.

Anyway, something to think about perhaps.

Edit - Just to clarify, the DIY projector you linked to, and the one I built, used an LCD screen with a resolution of 1024x768, so, no that's not 1080p. The OP's projector has a slightly larger 1280x720p resolution, but that isn't 1080p either. And while it's my opinion you'd still have to get into 2K plus territory resolutions to get the 'up-close effect' I was looking for, for 'normal' use, 1280x720p would be fine, I think. And at those prices, it would actually be cheaper than going DIY now, if you could even find the bits and pieces to do it yourself.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Shtopor

Guys I am not bragging or trying to sell you anything, all I did was to tell you that QUALITY 3D is AFFORDABLE.
here is my expencess:
Acer projector - 500
screen - 250
projector mount (ceiling in my case) - 50
iz3d driver - 20 (for ATI card owners)
glasses - 60 (+ shipping)


Very interesting. How is it to play with 3d glasses and track ir altogether?
I thought that the inevitable rotation of the head would let the glasses be less effective or give you distorted images (unless you set your track ir on super sensitive mode)..

Why would anyone still buy a 3d screen which needs glasses?
The no glasses technology is just around the corner, I'll rather wait another 12 months or so.

[Shtopor]

So far I didn't use it with tracIr (have to choose flightstick which is a bitch,
as I would love to buy MSFFB 2 and they don't make them anymore).
Regarding glassless 3D, it might come in a year or 10 but I can enjoy all 3D movies/gaming and 2D for that matter today at a price of a good 24 inch monitor.