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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-18-2012, 01:30 AM
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I thought they were carefully worded because some community members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of basic words and phrases like 'Hope', "would like", 'some time after', "maybe".

They seem to mix them up with words like "promise" and "definately" and then take it as a personal insult if their unfounded expectations are not met.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:26 AM
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I thought they were carefully worded because some community members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of basic words and phrases like 'Hope', "would like", 'some time after', "maybe".

They seem to mix them up with words like "promise" and "definately" and then take it as a personal insult if their unfounded expectations are not met.
I think what he is saying is 15 months after its original release COD actually performs poorly unless you turn off the features that define it as the " next generation " of flight sim.

Or perhaps he meant as I always say " actions speak louder than the few ambiguous ,misleading, empty words offered. "
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Old 06-18-2012, 05:42 AM
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I was thinking about things like, "On the aircraft front, we’ve done virtually everything we wanted to do..." Which could mean virtually anything, depending on their whim at the time. I think it goes without saying by now that what They want to do and what We would like them to do are rarely the same thing.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:32 AM
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I was thinking about things like, "On the aircraft front, we’ve done virtually everything we wanted to do..." Which could mean virtually anything, depending on their whim at the time. I think it goes without saying by now that what They want to do and what We would like them to do are rarely the same thing.
If we were unified on what we all wanted I would agree with you but since the community isn't they have decided to follow there own plan of action.
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I thought they were carefully worded because some community members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of basic words and phrases like 'Hope', "would like", 'some time after', "maybe".

They seem to mix them up with words like "promise" and "definately" and then take it as a personal insult if their unfounded expectations are not met.
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That usually is understand as "customer syndrome". Every speculation you put in your customer he will think it gonna be archived just the way he thinks!
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:13 PM
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I thought they were carefully worded because some community members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of basic words and phrases like 'Hope', "would like", 'some time after', "maybe".

They seem to mix them up with words like "promise" and "definately" and then take it as a personal insult if their unfounded expectations are not met.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:28 PM
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They aren't carefully worded: previous update threads or interviews have been careless in their wording, or the information divulged (in one of the Sukhoi threads here, Chivas and I reminisced over a 2009 Oleg interview in which a load of features were 'promised' about which didn't see the light of day. And by promised I mean flippant assertions such as 'X will be in the game, and Y will have this effect on it' etc). There is a difference.
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I thought they were carefully worded because some community members seem to have difficulty understanding the meaning of basic words and phrases like 'Hope', "would like", 'some time after', "maybe".

They seem to mix them up with words like "promise" and "definately" and then take it as a personal insult if their unfounded expectations are not met.
One thing you should also point out is the difference between what is stated on the box vs. what Oleg may have said during an interview during the development of the game several years prior to the game release..

And how things can change during development that may change what Oleg said would be in the game..

In that some here clearly seem to think that what Oleg said in some interview is a legal binding promise that some how over rides what is ultimately advertised on the box at the time of release..

Than maybe, just maybe these whiners wouldn't be so upset if they only realized that a interview on the current status of the game AT THE TIME OF THE INTERVIEW is NOT a legal binding promise that one could or should be getting upset about

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its a tough road to walk, on one hand you want to talk about the game you are developing, on the other, you know that you are going to have to drop or hold off on something and someone is going to take that as a broken promise, I understand why devs clam up and dont want to say anything... apparently the internet is stone...
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One thing you should also point out is the difference between what is stated on the box vs. what Oleg may have said during an interview during the development of the game several years prior to the game release..

And how things can change during development that may change what Oleg said would be in the game..

In that some here clearly seem to think that what Oleg said in some interview is a legal binding promise that some how over rides what is ultimately advertised on the box at the time of release..

Than maybe, just maybe these whiners wouldn't be so upset if they only realized that a interview on the current status of the game AT THE TIME OF THE INTERVIEW is NOT a legal binding promise that one could or should be getting upset about

Because here in the real world S HAPPENS
Quite right though it is a shame that the only thing that is accurate on the box is that an internet connection is needed to activate the thing.

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