Spitfire Mk. I tutorial movie by me

[robtek]

I learned in flight school that the rudder is used counter spin wise to stop the turning.
My tests in CoD confirmed that for me.

For the ailerons, in a spin there is no airflow over them because the plane is stalled.

Usually the rudder is the only working control in a spin, the elevators really start working when the spin is stopped and last the ailerons start to function when the plane is out of the stall

[Kupsised]

Ah, I think when I was doing it I had to put rudder in the opposite direction, that is, if I put the rudder right to put me in to the spin, I had to put it left to get me out of it. If I kept it right it never even started to recover before I hit the ground starting from fairly high up (whatever the altitude of the first default quick mission is, the free flight out over the sea). I'm not sure if that's what you mean by turning in to it? Since as I said, putting the rudder right if right rudder induced the spin doesn't have any effect at all for me. The way I just described it (rudder opposite to the direction that started the spin) has exactly the same effect that it had when you did it in the video, meaning the plane spins a bit more, but slower, then comes out quite quickly, the nose gives a little bob and the tail flicks a bit and then you can pull out, so perhaps that is what you were doing too? The other way just causes it to spin faster and the tail to buck around a bit but never shows any sign of recovery before, as I said, I ended up in the sea.

[ivo]

thank Freycinet it is very good thank a lot

Bye Ivo.

[2GFlea]

Here a copy/paste out of a Spitfire MkII manual...

Spit Spin.jpg

So it looks like the "official" Air Ministry way is opposite rudder. Sorry, I missed that Frey.

[bongodriver]

Ailerons can be quite significant to spin recovery, behaviour varies with aircraft but neutral aileron is the recommendation in all cases.

[Freycinet]

I actually now think that I applied opposite rudder in the movie. I have amended it to reflect that...

[Freycinet]

Says the same here:
http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spit2.html

Luckily I could correct it pretty easily in my video. Thanks for pointing out my brain-fart guys!

[robtek]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Ailerons can be quite significant to spin recovery, behaviour varies with aircraft but neutral aileron is the recommendation in all cases.

My bad, for initial recovery, afaik, everything neutral except the rudder which is used counterrotationwise.

Some crates need quite a lot additional input, like extending flaps, releasing tip tanks or extending the gear.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by 2GFlea

Here a copy/paste out of a Spitfire MkII manual...

Attachment 8546

So it looks like the "official" Air Ministry way is opposite rudder. Sorry, I missed that Frey.

From the proverbial horse's mouth. Thanks!

Very nice Freycinet. Thank you. Will you do that for the 109 too?