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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-28-2012, 04:33 AM
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I can sympathise. Maybe one day clod will get a career or single player equivalent of its own. For now the RoF CareerB is all there is for offliners like us.
How was that ROF SP play or career mode at it's 1 year release mark?

Oh wait, it didn't have one..

If you're going to compare something, especially software at least try to compare it around the same timeframes. ROF is plagued with problems and it's 3 years after it's release.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:49 AM
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How was that ROF SP play or career mode at it's 1 year release mark?

Oh wait, it didn't have one..

If you're going to compare something, especially software at least try to compare it around the same timeframes. ROF is plagued with problems and it's 3 years after it's release.
Quite right. I was thinking more in the future for Cliffs of Dover and a single player system. I understand what you mean about RoF though. I don't do MP much at all, but I gather there are some big restrictions with net code and objects etc. I hope they can fix that sort of thing on the future, as the object limitations impact on SP too.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:07 AM
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I don't pretend to know as much as a lot of self proclaimed genius' on here- but I can speak for myself. I've bought a few flight sims and none have been plagued with such bad juju as CloD. Never have I seen so much ignorance with fanboys and haters alike.

I had high hopes for this sim. And the eye candy is purty. But if other flight sims run better than CloD, even right out the gate than this sim with over a year of extra work... I'm gonna choose the sim that works. And if this is how they run the business, whether I liked previous products or not, they'll have to earn my cash for their next installment. And I will remember how CloD turned out.

But for now, I'll keep flying IL2 modded, FSX, A2A and DCS products. (Games and companies that got their product right or fixed it relatively quickly) and when BOM comes out, the reviews had better be out of the ballpark before I'll sniff at it... And I hate to spend money on products that don't run well and companies that have lost my trust. Not saying they can't turn it around and make a good sim, but the odds are stacked against them now... It's nothing personal, its just business.

But I haven't lost hope. The fact that I still check these forums shows that I still have hope to fly the sim I paid for, but with the bugs and stutters and wasted time feel as though I've been made a fool. Here's to hope! And I want 1C to prove me dead wrong!

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Old 05-28-2012, 07:22 AM
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Stupid line of conversation.

Rise of Flight is a superb game for off-liners. The career mode is absolutely marvellous.

It's rubbish when you go online. Everyone gets on teamspeak. Well Duh??? Flyers in WWI didn't have comms.

I'm all for realism, but radio comms in a first world war game?

Pfffft.
That's a valid point.

On the other hand I tried ROF online and it was quite pleasant and smooth, graphically wise.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:23 AM
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Yes RoF delivered

But the point I made..

And the point you missed!

Is it took RoF a year to deliver!

Hope that helps! S!
The point you made that Rof was delivered after one year was definitely not missed by myself or many other customers, but the point you either choose to or cannot see is after over one year of CLOD this game is not even in the shadow of ROF post twelve months for reliability or playability.

Hope that helps!
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:49 AM
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thanks B6 for the update, appreciate them coming.




some level of awesomeness.





when its all ironed out, this game will be




that said, comparing the release of this game to the rise of flight is like comparing the development of the p-51 and the f-22, two different birds . . .

also it doesn't change anything. one can argue to wits end how much better ROF and its company to CLOD etc, or that ROF had a same jacked up release and took cabbage of patches to get to its fun state, but it won't change a thing where we are at with CLOD or the Moscow plan.

The truth of the matter is the game could be better, and the devs are working towards that.

That's it. Yeah it had a bad release, but its being worked on.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:01 AM
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thanks B6 for the update, appreciate them coming.


that said, comparing the release of this game to the rise of flight is like comparing the development of the p-51 and the f-22, two different birds . . .


I couldn't agree more about the f22 comparison.



http://gizmodo.com/5897951/f+22-fail...e-have-no-clue
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:21 AM
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ohh ... RoF vs CLoD

What is next, Superman vs Batman ?

Keep going kids, its been very funny.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:56 AM
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ohh ... RoF vs CLoD

What is next, Superman vs Batman ?

Keep going kids, its been very funny.

Buchon is right.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:37 PM
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The point you made that Rof was delivered after one year was definitely not missed by myself or many other customers,
Well than you would do well as to make mention of it from time to time as I did, in that your post convently left that fact out.

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but the point you either choose to or cannot see is after over one year of CLOD this game is not even in the shadow of ROF post twelve months for reliability or playability.
It is silly to think you can make a direct comparsion between the two.. For many reasons.. Just to name a few
  • RoF is a DX9 API game CoD is DX11 API game
  • RoF pay for updates gives them a more frequant cash flow, CoD only gets cash with sequals
Those two things make them very different

I presented the RoF example with regards to how long it took them to get it all worked out.. In that all games go through this process.. Some take a few weeks and some like RoF and now CoD can take over a year to sort things out.. Something you and yours convently want to ignore when talking about the state of CoD

Hope that helps!
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